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I'm not saying might is right, I'm saying God is perfect, and therefore is the only being in existence who can fairly judge people. And people are born deserving eternal torture, they are born deserving spiritual separation from God. And atheists want just that, so God isn't being cruel, He is just giving you what you want; a place completely devoid of God and everything good that goes along with Him. Without love, peace, joy, happiness, rest, fun etc., i'd imagine life would be pretty torturous.

Magus55, Internet Infidels 11 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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FinalFantasyIII

Hm. I don't know what crazy planet YOU come from, but I've got plenty of love, peace, joy, and all the rest. And, I'm an ATHEIST. What do you have to say to that, dirtbag?

Yeah. I thought not.

6/23/2008 2:56:24 AM

Me

How can anything deserve 'eternal' torture?

6/23/2008 2:38:58 PM

From the frozen north, Death cometh

So before I was born, I was sentenced to eternal torture for a crime that was actually committed according to the will of the judge (as God in omnipotent, omniscient and is guiding everyones actions) by someone other than me and this is all the judges idea of a fair punishment?

4/21/2010 6:13:08 AM

JSS

{I'm saying God is perfect, and therefore is the only being in existence who can fairly judge people. And people are born deserving eternal torture, they are born deserving spiritual separation from God.}

Yes, and when asked for appropriate explanations for why God is perfect, why we deserve eternal torture, and why God's judgments are fair, the explanations, however roundabout they may be, eventually make their way back to the "might equals right" argument.

2/13/2011 7:09:50 PM

D.A.K.

"i'd imagine life would be pretty torturous."

You mean like the afterlife of eternal torture we all apparently deserve? Also, capitalization. I realize that's a losing argument with you, but it still bugs me.

2/13/2011 7:16:32 PM

DFM

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Me

How can anything deserve 'eternal' torture?


I would say that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and their kind come pretty close to deserving eternal torture. Not that I believe in an afterlife, but if there were a Hell with eternal torture, there would be no shortage of deserving inmates.

5/6/2013 7:25:50 PM

Ebon

Are you fucking HIGH? That doesn't begin to make sense.

5/7/2013 12:51:53 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Nothing is perfect.
Get it?

5/22/2014 7:24:45 AM

TB Tabby

Hell is not only unjust, it is INHERENTLY unjust. There is no crime anyone could commit that deserves eternal torture. No matter how heinous your atrocities are, they are still finite. Especially when the "crime" is being the descendant of a woman who ate a fruit after being told not to because a talking snake talked her into it. Show me someone who thinks Hell is just, and I'll show you someone who doesn't know the difference between justice and revenge.

And can you explain WHY God is perfect? What makes God's moral decrees just instead of unjust? A perfect deity would be able to explain these morals in a way that even the most stubborn non-believer would have to accept it. And how do you know that "love, peace, joy, happiness, rest, fun etc." come from God?

5/22/2014 7:53:09 AM

Dr. Shrinker

"Without love, peace, joy, happiness, rest, fun etc., i'd imagine life would be pretty torturous."

- Just look at the people on Rapture Ready

5/22/2014 8:20:20 AM

Swede

The Bible is against some kinds of love. God commands his people to go out and slay a neighboring town, many times over, which is hardly peaceful. The Bible prohibits many kinds of enjoyments, happiness and fun, and resting is something we do beyond the grave. So yes, without atheism, life would be pretty torturous.

5/22/2014 11:38:36 AM
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