Stop by for a read of the creation model on my web site. The first 4 chapters of the online book.
Not only have they been able to petrify things in a very short time in the lab but they also have been able to create coal out of wood chips in around 30 days. If it had never dawned on you coal is nothing more than all the pre-flood vegetation morphed into carbon material. They find tons of identifiable tree logs and stumps in layers of coal and through more than one layer of coal all the time. Water transport and the right conditions voila, coal.
Of course the atheists have come up with their own fanciful explanations for public consumption.
You only need the right conditions and I think an internal meltdown of the earth at Noah's flood provides the right conditions.
There are lots of good creation web sites that provide further opportunities to study. The Institute for Creation Research, Answers in Genesis, Creation Science Evangelism, NWCreation dot net etc. I like Carl Baugh's creation model in his book Panorama of Creation and Walter Brown's book In The Beginning and The Genesis Flood by Henry Morris.
Of course not all creation scientists agree on every detail of the creation model since they weren't there so we have to allow some latitude in the model.
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Well I guess that proves YEC.
I told you Haruhi created the universe 3 years ago.
... Oh wait, you were expecting me to believe in YOUR god? Shoulda said so.
Creation scientist is an oxymoron.
In real science, you look at the evidence then come up with a conclusion that fits.
In your case you already have your conclusion, the Bible, and you try to fit observable reality into it.
That is why you fail so massively.
The "layers of coal" present means they couldn't have all been formed at once, in one flood.
Nothing irks me more than individuals twisting science to support any cause.
Not only have they been able to petrify things in a very short time...
...they also have been able to create coal...
They find tons of identifiable tree logs and stumps...
And just who are 'they'?
..they weren't there so we have to allow some latitude in the model.
Ah, but when we try to give evidence for evolution you fundies squawk "Were you there?!" So give us some latitude in our model, okay?
But I'm probably pissing in the wind.
You're a moron. Because you're desperate, eager, and hopeful that the natural world will fit exactly a literal biblical scenario.
You and the rest of the creationist weirdos are fighting a losing battle. The rest of the world is passing you by at a rapid rate of knots dooming you to a quirky side-entry in the histories of the future.
The bible is not literally true in any case, so why go to all these tortuous, fanciful and extraordinarily tedious lengths? It just makes you look like deluded simpletons. No wonder people mock you and make fun of you.
Oddly enough, Scientists knew how coal occured before we tried making it. We also knew diamonds must form in a similar way (superman was doing it in the sixties,way before anyone invested in the process) The industrial diamond markets today are quite the success story.
"good creation web sites"
Is there an (intentionally) funny one?
I've long wanted to get into a conversation with someone like this, agree completely with how the explanation of how the world came to be, but disagree on why: I'd claim that it wasn't the work of a benevolent god, but that of the Demiurge, who did it to trap our souls in a prison of a flawed world. I think the reactions would be priceless.
@Darwin
"And just who are 'they'?"
Robert Gentry. His method was to take a small wooden dowel in a pressure vessel with a small amount of water bake it for 3 weeks and claim that the wood turned to coal. However he did not make coal as he claimed he made charcoal, which we've known to make for 1000's of years.
Source:
http://www.halos.com/videos/0004-TheYoungAgeoftheEarthEnglish-30k.htm
Fundies like this are dangerously ridiculous, and also sinfully delicious because they lie and distort as a matter of course to supporet their weak and suffering faith.
For example, if a genuine scientist, wile making artificial diamonds said, "We create heat and pressure that would be impossible to find in nature so that the process doesn't require millions of years. We're giving it a little help for our own convenience." The fundie would ejaculate over all the message boards, "Famous scientist admits diamonds can't form in nature and need intelligent designer, who is Jeebus Crust our lord and tailor who rose again and will trumpet me into a mansion of gold!"
You only need the right conditions and I think an internal meltdown of the earth at Noah's flood provides the right conditions
I think 500 micrograms of thorazine might prevent an impending internal meltdown of your synaptic tissues.
Of course not all creation scientists agree on every detail of the creation model since they weren't there so we have to allow some latitude in the model.
I have a model where the world was made from a giant frisbee that got stuck on God's roof. How can I get it included with the creationist theories?
"I think..."
Now, you see, that was where you went wrong. Thinking requires logic, facts, brain cells, and an acquaintance with reality.
Yes. We can make coal in labs... USING VAST QUANTITIES OF ENERGY...
Get the point? We need to use energy to make coal. The coal we get has been made using the geological forces. The pressure involved is MONSTEROUS.
You take peat, a low grade decayed plant material... Then you subject it to massive heat and pressure under anaerobic conditions... Then you have coal.
Now this coal gives energy when you burn it. But not as much energy as you PUT IN!
"Of course not all creation scientists agree on every detail of the creation model "
That of course comes about as a direct result of just making crap up and not following correct scientific methodology.
Oh good a new scientific hypothesis, lets see if you can replace evolution as the official "theory".
Oh wait you can't because you aren't promoting it in the name of truth, but rather in the name of desperately clinging to your millenia old idea.
Actually there was no flood, the world was covered in ice until Odin killed Ymir creating the sky from his skull, clouds from his brains, the land from his bones, and the sea from his blood.
It all makes perfect sense. But I can see how the world being an ice ball could be confused as a flood.
It's funny how they cherry-pick things from science while ignoring everything else.
Then again, they do it with their own bibles too.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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