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Opposing "marriage-consummation-via-sodomy" is actually "gay-neutral."

It's important to remember that "gay" AND hetero men are allowed to marry women.

Also that lesbians AND hetero women are allowed to marry men.

No matter what the law tries to declare, "gay" is not a third sex, so no one is being discriminated against.

When sodomy is declared a legal way to consummate marriage, it's only a matter of time until some blushing bride is told by the courts that her husband's rear-entry was part of her package deal.

Today, sodomy is still grounds for divorce in many places.

With "gay marriage," it would not be grounds for divorce, even with "normal" couples.

Everyone--including (especially) everyone who's "gay"--knows sodomy isn't "real" sex, we all just pretend it is in order to avoid having to face or discuss the reality of the activity.

It embarrasses and/or nauseates many "normal" people to contemplate legally protecting titillative anal-pumping activity.

So let's stop pretending it's "gay marriage" and call it what it is: "Sodomy as consummation of marriage." Then we'll see how many women want a piece of that.

UppityNegro, The Washington Times 51 Comments [12/17/2008 10:40:10 PM]
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Doctor Whom

Mr. Loving could have married a white woman, and Mrs. Loving could have married a black man. Interracial isn't a third sex, so there was no discrimination.

12/17/2008 10:42:45 PM

Wondershock

Dude... it doesn't matter HOW marriage is defined - marital rape is still rape, whether it's anal or not. Does he think that gay marriage changes this? Because it doesn't.

12/17/2008 10:44:43 PM

Siberia

They do have a fixation with sodomy, don't they?
What about oral? Is that "consummation"? And since when do lesbians practice sodomy (well, without extra equipment)? Where is it that sodomy is grounds for divorce?

12/17/2008 10:45:01 PM

Barikada

"Today, sodomy is still grounds for divorce in many places." Uh, no, it's not.

12/17/2008 10:45:44 PM

Ambrielle

Whenever they use this argument, it shows them up for the deceitful, moronic people they are.

12/17/2008 10:46:13 PM

Mat

"It embarrasses and/or nauseates many "normal" people to contemplate legally protecting titillative anal-pumping activity."

UppityNegro had to go lay down for a while after writing this post.

12/17/2008 10:46:43 PM

IanC

Does anyone give a shit about consummating marriage anymore? Really.

@ Siberia - sodomy to these guys means anal sex. Nothing else.

(at least thats the feeling i get)

12/17/2008 10:47:52 PM

AuroraMike

YEs but sodomy is so much more than just butt-fucking. Sodomy in many states included beastality, oral sex, fisting, golden showers, penetration with sex toys, etc. In a nutshell it was anything other than penetration of the vagina by the penis.

Now by who's penis is a whole different story. :)

12/17/2008 10:50:10 PM

Flatworm

When sodomy is declared a legal way to consummate marriage, it's only a matter of time until some blushing bride is told by the courts that her husband's rear-entry was part of her package deal.


Wait, are you saying that allowing gay marriage would lead to straight women losing their right to refuse anal sex?

I've got news for you, buddy: women don't lose their right to refuse sex when they get married. Not vaginal, not oral, not anal, not any other form of sex you can imagine.

It hurts my brain just to read this crap.

12/17/2008 10:50:43 PM

lotus whitedragon

I bet even God loves lesbian anal sex.

12/17/2008 10:56:14 PM

jack cambrian

In any other context, who would've guessed that someone who employed the term 'titillative anal-pumping activity' was actually OPPOSED to homosexual sex?

12/17/2008 11:05:21 PM

blah

You're obsessed with this. Someone who spends this much time thinking about this and who immediately assumes buttsex is the end all be all of gay marriage OBVIOUSLY has some problems of his own.

12/17/2008 11:05:54 PM

Devonian

This guy's got issues...

"I've got news for you, buddy: women don't lose their right to refuse sex when they get married. Not vaginal, not oral, not anal, not any other form of sex you can imagine."
Not in his world, apparently.

12/17/2008 11:08:19 PM

Alex

The fundies keep saying "anal sex" like it's a bad thing. My guess is that they ain't gettin' much of anything at all.

12/17/2008 11:11:26 PM

Knotilus

but that's not what they're...

ah, fuckit.

12/17/2008 11:13:20 PM



Sounds like somebody's on the downlow...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=downlow

12/17/2008 11:13:55 PM

Pule Thamex

My friend, you live a very sheltered life. Many hetrosexual women are partial to a spot of rear-entry action. Most hetrosexual men I know sometimes like to indulge in that with their women too.

But (no pun intended) of course, you sound like a very palid wet-fish, a weasely-worded dead-loss, and a dickhead. Someone who wouldn't know what to do with anything remotely approaching the female form in any case. Who are you, you limp tooled prattler, to dispense with advice on matters you'll never know a great deal about?

Stick with Pam you dumb wanker.

12/17/2008 11:21:29 PM

Osiris

What Christians fail to realize is that they have the same freedom of religion to practice Scientology like Tom Cruise does.

As you can see one size fits all legislation is fucked up.

12/17/2008 11:25:11 PM

Fed up

" titillative anal-pumping activity. "
such a titillating phrase.
Were your fingers shaking when you wrote that?
I bet you just can't get it out of your mind
You pathetic closet case


12/17/2008 11:31:26 PM

kingoftheheavies

Meanwhile, Martha, having taken a tramp in the woods, is found lying in a ditch on the edge of town.

12/17/2008 11:35:09 PM

Nate!

I don't care for anal sex myself - even in porn it's like "try again, champ, wrong port of entry" - but I'm *still* not clear what the problem is with it. Could you try again, maybe this time with something resembling logic or reasoning?

12/17/2008 11:41:55 PM

GigaGuess

Opposing "marriage-consummation-via-sodomy" is actually "gay-neutral."
Keep telling yourself that. Whatever lets you sleep better at night.

It's important to remember that "gay" AND hetero men are allowed to marry women.

Also that lesbians AND hetero women are allowed to marry men.

Yes, and once gay marriage is allowed, you'll be allowed to marry a man as well. Your point?

No matter what the law tries to declare, "gay" is not a third sex, so no one is being discriminated against.
We're not permitted to legally declare our relationships as you are. Ergo, discrimination.

When sodomy is declared a legal way to consummate marriage, it's only a matter of time until some blushing bride is told by the courts that her husband's rear-entry was part of her package deal.
Which would make her a rapist. Which is illegal. No consent.

Today, sodomy is still grounds for divorce in many places.
Huh? If it's non-consensual sodomy, then it's rape. If it's consensual sodomy...why the divorce?

With "gay marriage," it would not be grounds for divorce, even with "normal" couples.
Don't like it? Don't do it. Guess what, buddy? It already happens even without gay marriage being legal.

Everyone--including (especially) everyone who's "gay"--knows sodomy isn't "real" sex, we all just pretend it is in order to avoid having to face or discuss the reality of the activity.
Intimate activity involving genitals and (hopefully) orgasm. Where I come from, that's considered sex.

It embarrasses and/or nauseates many "normal" people to contemplate legally protecting titillative anal-pumping activity.
Whether we marry or not, it will still happen. And we're not gonna go celibate just because it hurts your widdle feewings.

So let's stop pretending it's "gay marriage" and call it what it is: "Sodomy as consummation of marriage." Then we'll see how many women want a piece of that.
Some would like it. Most wouldn't give a rat's ass. And while we're on the topic of calling things what they are, let's talk about "Pro-Life..."

12/17/2008 11:42:08 PM

Giveitaday

Today, sodomy is still grounds for divorce in many places.

Not in the US it isn't, it went into obscurity along the sodomy laws that I'm sure you'd also like to bring back.

I'm sure back in the day there were plenty of people like you who claimed that segregation and Jim Crow weren't discrimination because blacks weren't "real people". It wasn't right then and it's not right now.

Why do you care anyway? It's not as if Joe and Steve from down the street getting married would effect you in any way whatsoever. Just because something offends you, religiously or otherwise, unless it violates an existing law then neither you, nor the government, nor the church have the right to dictate what other people can or cannot do.

@#864241-
Yeah it does, it really, really does.

12/17/2008 11:53:43 PM

Headache

It embarrasses and/or nauseates many "normal" people to contemplate legally protecting titillative anal-pumping activity.

So... Wifey said no, eh?

Edit: And now today's logical fallacy "True men love lesbian sex!"


12/17/2008 11:57:35 PM

Old Viking

This would pass as in-depth analysis in the Washington Times.

12/18/2008 12:09:33 AM
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