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It seems that you are not will to admit that most of the scientific methodology is subjected to assumptions, bias, speculations and inference just to name a few. Take carbon dating it is used to date things to about 50000 years, so something that is supposed to be 1 million years old should not have any carbon 14. Yet we find diamonds with carbon 14. What does that mean? Well it can two meanings either it is young than 50000 or carbon 14 has leeched into the diamond from the environment, which means we cannot really use carbon 14 to date anything because the data for the age could have been corrupted by carbon 14 being leeched from the environment

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Which are just proofs or evidence that evolution does not exists. Without intelligence computers, technology and medicine would not exist. Has anyone observe computers, technology or medicine evolve by themselves without the use of intelligence?

drf333, BBC Religion Ethics 34 Comments [12/17/2008 2:29:30 AM]
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dpareja

"Has anyone observe computers, technology or medicine evolve by themselves without the use of intelligence?"

Is it even worth pointing out that evolution applies to living things, not things that don't reproduce?

12/17/2008 2:31:12 AM

The Outsider

Good thing we don't use Carbon-14 on most fossils. Dumbass!

12/17/2008 2:31:12 AM



The reason diamonds have c-14 is because they are susceptible to contamination from decaying uranium. Organisms that died above ground are not.

12/17/2008 2:31:43 AM

k4jun

God created my computer using clay and a belly button.

12/17/2008 2:43:04 AM

Ambrielle

drf333 has a poor grasp of... something.

12/17/2008 4:22:51 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

..yeah..has anyone ever met a Cretin who actually understood basic biology?

12/17/2008 4:24:14 AM

a mind far far away

This post is so full of fail, I'm not even going to point out the horrible torture of the English language.

12/17/2008 4:25:21 AM

pete

Radioactive decay doesn't work that way.

12/17/2008 4:28:23 AM

werewolf

Animal species. Living things. They evolve.

Computers. Made things. They do not evolve.

Look up carbon dating, you illegitimate son of a camel.

12/17/2008 4:55:06 AM

Arts_Myth

I'd have to say that, if there's any substance that shouldn't be contaminated by carbon of any sort, it's diamonds...

12/17/2008 4:59:50 AM

C_bunny

.... or it means those rare diamonds with 14C are indeed less than 50Ka old? In addition to contamination from other minerals, this is possible as well! I love how the "either..." message really doesn't give a second option.


I think I might dedicate my life to education people about the mechanics of radiometric dating!

12/17/2008 5:22:57 AM



Carbon-14 has a half-life of only 5,730 years. The upper limits on its range is about 62,000 years.

Uranium-238 decays to Lead-206 with a half-life of 4.47 billion years. Rubidium-87 decays to Strontium-87 with a half-life of about 50 billion years. For comparison, the Universe is only about 13.7 billion years old.

Thank you for proving that you haven't done thirty seconds of research. I hope you enjoy being an irrational, willfully ignorant, delusional idiot for the rest of your pitiful excuse of a life.

12/17/2008 5:30:56 AM

cdelestial-salamander

"so something that is supposed to be 1 million years old should not have any carbon 14"
wow, just wow

12/17/2008 5:38:51 AM

pete

Actually cdelestial-salamander, and anyone else who's curious, a small amount of the Carbon 14 can remain far past 50,000 years. "Half life" doesn't mean half the time it takes to all decay. Half life is the amount of time it takes for half a sample to decay. It's a measure of the probablity that a given number of decay reactions will take place.

So, every 5,730 years, half of a samples Carbon 14 decays. Then it gets cut in half every additional 5,730 years. But, there's nothing to prevent a few "stubborn" atoms from lasting for millions of years. It's just that so little remains that one can't draw accurate conclusions.

12/17/2008 6:07:35 AM

484

"What does that mean?"
The diamond is less than 50,000 years old.
Also learn the concept of exponential Decay

12/17/2008 6:09:37 AM

Sasha

Has anyone observe computers, technology or medicine evolve by themselves without the use of intelligence?

So you've proved that biological evolution does not require intelligence. Which we've claimed all along. Good job.

12/17/2008 6:41:12 AM

aaa

Sigh...

12/17/2008 7:05:42 AM

Paschal Wagner

In other words, you're not intelligent and you haven't observed anything?

12/17/2008 7:05:51 AM

Grimesy

I'm thinking of a word between the letters 'F' and 'L'.

12/17/2008 7:39:48 AM

deviantART mod

Religion kills brain cells at an alarming rate.

12/17/2008 7:59:08 AM

Detrs

Good thing there's more than one type of radiometric dating then, right?

12/17/2008 9:09:07 AM

anevilmeme

Part of the fundie Ten Commandments: Thou shall bash Carbon 14 dating but thou shalt not ever attempt to understand it.

12/17/2008 11:28:43 AM

Porky Pine

Education. Get one.

12/17/2008 1:32:03 PM

Mister Spak

"Yet we find diamonds with carbon 14. What does that mean? "

It means you've been reading creationist books. If you want to learn science you have to read science books.

12/17/2008 1:34:51 PM

colonel catastrophe

HAve none of these fundies ever heard of any of the other materials used for radiometric dating, like uranium 238?

12/17/2008 2:17:24 PM
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