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I am really quite shocked at your NEED for empirical evidence when you give a great oration on the great intelligence mankind has. If you study the empirical evidence of anything you will find that it really leads to more questions for answers we do not know. For instance, the super conductor collider and particle beam accelerator to discover the "God" particle and help figure out how other dimensions of reality affect ours.

The rational evidence for an Infinite-Personal-Creator is plenty. The Christian faith is the most "VALIDATED" faith with it's rich history and archeological evidence and correspondence with nature. So when it comes to faith validation is important to rational thinkers since one should choose the most validated faith to believe as "most likely to be true" any other faith system would be founded on blind optimism.

Jesus did promise to return to give you all the empirical evidence you could ever want. It's only a matter of time.
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who's got my back, yahoo answers 25 Comments [12/18/2008 6:44:51 AM]
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C_V


we're really going to need more VALIDATION than your say so, kid.

12/18/2008 6:52:39 AM

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The same could be said for any other religion. What makes yours special?

12/18/2008 6:54:56 AM

apYrs

Validation doesn't mean noisiest

12/18/2008 7:04:08 AM

a mind far far away

The Christian faith is the most "VALIDATED" faith with it's rich history and archeological evidence and correspondence with nature

The Christian faith is NOT the most validated faith. Far from it, in fact. Islam, Baha'i, Seikism, Paganism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and practically every other religion has tons more validation than christianity. The christian's 'history' is so full of crimes against humanity that I'm really surprised that you said this. And it's not only the catholics and their crusades and inquisitions. The protestants have a history full of hate, murder, genocide, and deceit as well. Martin Luther and John Calvin were fond of their respect with heads of state, and oftentimes used this connection as a means to put their enemies to death. The Puritans done the same thing with the Native Americans. And let's not forget that Northern Ireland catholics and British protestants went at it for over a decade. Archaeological evidence? Don't make me laugh. There's almost NO archaeological evidence to back up the historical claims of christianity. And even if there were, it still wouldn't make your bible any more proof of the existence of god than a history book. Correspondence with nature. I'm glad you mentioned this last, because it's the worst one. Christians are so against environmentalism that I'd be surprised if anyone took this seriously. Christians are the ones most wanting to destroy this planet, and damn to those who want to save it. Overall, this post is laughable at best, and I didn't even go over the first paragraph, or the last sententence. There was enough in the one sentence that I commented on to show that if this is the "proof" for christianity, it won't be long before there is no more christianity. No intelligent person could or would accept this insane system of hate and cruelty.

12/18/2008 7:12:35 AM

aaa

We want that evidence. NOW.

12/18/2008 7:33:33 AM

Rat of Steel

"I am really quite shocked at your NEED for empirical evidence when you give a great oration on the great intelligence mankind has."

Considering that your version of evidence amounts to "God said it; I believe it; that settles it.", the above declaration somehow fails to surprise me. *smirk*

"The rational evidence for an Infinite-Personal-Creator is plenty."

If that's so, why haven't you shown us what it is?

"Jesus did promise to return to give you all the empirical evidence you could ever want. It's only a matter of time."

So, your strong finish amounts to "any day now, I'll be right, and you'll be sorry"? Sorry, chump, but your own Bible states that Jesus' return would happen during the lifetime of some of those who were alive at the time of his death. Since that didn't happen, I'd say he broke the hell out of that promise. Your empty threats do not even impress, let alone scare me. Try again when your pubes grow in, okay?

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(anonymous)
"It's like badly written sci-fi."


Did you have L. Ron Hubbard in mind when you typed that, or is it just me?

12/18/2008 7:51:52 AM

anonymous

Christianity uses a horrifically contradictory book as its main source of doctrine, makes almost no sense, and has this weird sort of plot-device God is omnipotent and omniscient, but is always probing and trying things and covering up mistakes as though he doesn't know what he's doing at all.

It's like badly written sci-fi.

12/18/2008 7:59:27 AM

ChocoholicBec

Please do "not" use "quotation marks" for "emphasis". It makes you look like an "idiot".

I'm just going to "ignore" the "rest" of this "stupid post".

12/18/2008 9:04:18 AM

Shadoboy

So, until Jesus brings that evidence on, you have nothing...

12/18/2008 9:56:11 AM

deviantART mod

Christianity is the LEAST credible of all religions.
BTW, Scientology started as a result of a $10 bet in a bar.

12/18/2008 10:01:23 AM

Ash

I don't think "evidence" means what he thinks it means.

12/18/2008 11:16:58 AM

anevilmeme


"If you study the empirical evidence of anything you will find that it really leads to more questions for answers we do not know."

In the grown up world we call this the scientific method.

12/18/2008 11:26:46 AM

stoat100

'Jesus did promise to return to give you all the empirical evidence you could ever want. It's only a matter of time.
54 minutes ago'

54 hours ago.

54 years ago.

540 years ago (I could go on) and still waiting...

12/18/2008 12:23:53 PM

Mister Spak

"The Christian faith is the most "VALIDATED" faith with it's rich history and archeological evidence and correspondence with nature. So when it comes to faith validation is important to rational thinkers since one should choose the most validated faith to believe as "most likely to be true" any other faith system would be founded on blind optimism. "

Except the koran has been proven true.


http://www.xyapx.com/ziggyzag/moreproofofdivineinspiration.php


12/18/2008 12:55:54 PM

Doctor Whom

The Christian faith is the most "VALIDATED" faith with it's rich history and archeological evidence

Then show us the archeological evidence for the Exodus.

and correspondence with nature.

Count the number of legs on an insect.

12/18/2008 1:21:28 PM

Anon-e-moose

"The Christian faith is the most "VALIDATED" faith"

Bollocks. For something to be 'validated', it has to be PROVED empirically. And the only way to validate the existence of your so-called 'God' is for him to actually SHOW himself, in physical form. Then & only then will we accept the existence of such. No fundie has been able to prove 'God' empirically to date - and they never will. Because 'God' doesn't exist, and never will (thus the insane concept of 'Faith').

At least scientists will soon be able to discover the Higgs-Boson (or 'God') particle, and combined with Hawking's equations, will know what happened before Planck Time & thus explain how the Big Bang happened, and how the universe formed. Therefore science will know the origin of EVERYTHING. And for 'God', currently hanging on by his fingernails from the edge of human importance, this will be the final push that'll plunge him into the abyss of irrelevance, along with all the other mythical deities of ancient times.

This is why I call the LHC the 'God Killer'.

12/18/2008 2:27:52 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Ok, well..once Jeebus brings that evidence then I may reconsider, but until then go take a hike you cultist!

12/18/2008 7:49:06 PM

Old Viking

I think Jesus plans a Power Point presentation.

12/18/2008 9:34:31 PM

Canadiest

What part of Judeo-Christian religion don't you get. If geology and history oroved any of it true it's the Hebrew stories (places and events)

As a second hand religion you jerks really are full of yourselves

12/18/2008 10:11:40 PM

Grigadil

It's only a matter of time before the sun expands into a red giant.

I'l bet you a case of beer that the sun will go *bloop* before your zombie big brother shows up with any evidence.

You have something like 10 billion years. See you then. Bring the beer.

12/18/2008 10:24:30 PM

Anarkitty

If (when?) the big JC does indeed return, I will at that point accept the empirical evidence that he would represent and, after sufficient scientific study, likely conclude that the Christian world view is correct to my extreme chagrin, and I would adapt to that new paradigm. I will not however make that adjustment prior to the presentation of the evidence, that would violate every tenet or the scientific method.
If I were to choose to believe without evidence, I would freely admit it to be an irrational decision based on faith and feelings, and would not try to present it as "truth" or "science".

12/19/2008 3:42:26 AM

John-in-Oz

No no, Jesus promise to return in the first century A.D. is INvalidation. See the difference?

12/19/2008 6:57:17 PM

????

Then we answer the new questions. We make practical use of our discoveries. We move on. We PROGRESS. We save the lives of whiny fundies using new antibiotics and vaccine we made in the process.

12/20/2008 6:25:00 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Try posting that imbecilic word salad without a computer.

10/28/2014 1:00:51 AM

Kuno

If you study the empirical evidence of anything you will find that it really leads to more questions for answers we do not know.

Why do you say that as if it is a bad thing?

10/28/2014 5:33:34 AM
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