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Evolution predicts nothing. Evolution scientists observe remains and tries to put a theory on what they find. The theory changes over time as contradictory evidence is found. It is evolution which slaves to it's theory, not fossils which tell them anything. I think it's all guess work "substantiated" by unprovable/anecdotal/circumstantial fossil records. And we have a long history of jumping to the wrong conclusions based on this kind of evidence. But that's just my opinion.

~Dave, Gateworld Forum 36 Comments [12/17/2008 4:57:42 PM]
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#814808
Blue J

Woah, woah...you mean that scientists admit that they were wrong and change their theories when conflicting evidence is found? The horror.

12/17/2008 5:02:08 PM

#814826
Mrs. Antichrist

Change "evolution" to "creation", and you're correct.

12/17/2008 5:09:56 PM

#814849
Ken

"Evolution scientists observe remains and tries to put a theory on what they find. The theory changes over time as contradictory evidence is found."

Um... duh? That's how science works.

12/17/2008 5:20:39 PM

#814850
C_V


and just like an opinion, everyone has an asshole. looks like you lucked out and got two.

12/17/2008 5:20:54 PM

#814855
Headache

But that's just my opinion.

That is quite obvious, what is not obvious is why you try to deny facts?

12/17/2008 5:22:51 PM

#814867
Mister Spak

"I think it's all guess work "substantiated" by unprovable/anecdotal/circumstantial fossil records. "

Your religion is all guesswork "substantiated" by anecdotes. Science has moon landings.

"And we have a long history of jumping to the wrong conclusions based on this kind of evidence."

Yes we see that all the time.

"But that's just my opinion. "

Which you've shown is not worth much.

12/17/2008 5:28:29 PM

#814868
Dark_Lord_Prime

Creationism predicts nothing. Creation "scientists" observe 4000-year-old stories and try to find facts to fit their conclusions. The conclusions never change over time, despite any contradictory evidence being found. It is creationism which slaves people to its nonsense, not reality which refutes what they believe. I think it's all blind faith "substantiated" by unprovable/anecdotal/circumstantial "miracles." And they have a long history of making wild leaps of "logic" based on this kind of evidence. But that's just my opinion.

Fixed.

12/17/2008 5:29:05 PM

#814900
aaa

So?

12/17/2008 5:43:33 PM

#814907
Doctor Whom

Do you mean to tell me that those ScIeNtists actually have the nerve to start with observation and then fit theory to it, instead of starting with dogma and then cherry-picking, shoehorning, or just making up observations to fit? That when the evidence proves them wrong, they admit it? Say it isn't so!

P.S. As another Dave, I hereby revoke your Dave privileges.

12/17/2008 5:48:05 PM

#814922
Papabear

"Evolution predicts nothing."

So, you've never actually studied evolution, have you?

12/17/2008 5:53:00 PM

#814948
Devonian

"The theory changes over time as contradictory evidence is found"
That's how science works, dumbass!

12/17/2008 6:10:53 PM

#814951
Quantum Mechanic

Dave didn't do well in biology.

12/17/2008 6:11:29 PM

#814991
Illuminatalie

But that's just my opinion
It's good you can acknowledge this, but it belongs in bold, at the start of the paragraph.

12/17/2008 6:28:17 PM

#814999
Pule Thamex

Let me take an educated guess. You're an uneducated tithe-payer.

12/17/2008 6:31:34 PM

#815001
ArmandT

Evolution can help predict how a species may adapt and survive when the environment it relies on to survive changes.

Creationism? Nada.

12/17/2008 6:31:58 PM

#815023
Grigadil

If you were to invest just a little time in actual research on the subject, your opinion would be worth more than exactly nothing. As it stands,....

12/17/2008 6:49:31 PM

#815033
El Guapo

Not all opinions are equally valid, Dave.

12/17/2008 6:53:24 PM

#815038
AuroraMike

IN A BEGINNING Created by the Elohim were the heavens and the earth.

Yet if you show a Christian the above, they'll go into a tizzy. That's a literal/exact translation from the Hebrew versions of the Torah (first 5 books of the OT). Elohim is plural and no, it does not mean the Trinity. And if it did mean the Trinity, then it is still plural, meaning different entities.

So which god created the earth then? What say you now, evidence?

12/17/2008 6:57:04 PM

#815057
The Outsider

Evolution predicts nothing.

Hi there!
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12/17/2008 7:11:19 PM

#815072
toothache

And your opinion is worthless. But thanks for playing.

12/17/2008 7:23:58 PM

#815080
Ashfish

@AuroaMike

Don't be silly, you know the OT has nothing to do with Christianity, except when they want to bash homos and pretend that they actually have a grasp of a book that isn't theirs when it comes to "origins."

12/17/2008 7:31:13 PM

#815102
pete

Fail.

Evolution, or genetics to be accurate, predicts many things. For instance, one can predict that breeding plants or animals for a particular trait can achieve the predicted results. Heck! Sheep, cows, goats, dogs, cats, grapes, corn, wheat, apples, and countless other organisms, are the results of selective breeding to achieve a PREDICTED end product.

Then, of course, there are countless instances of fossils which have confirmed predictions about "missing links". Consider all the intermediate fossils that have been found since the publication of The Origin of Species. Fossils which Darwin predicted.

12/17/2008 7:39:14 PM

#815142
Old Viking

And, golly, Dave, we really do value your opinion. Thanks for playing.

12/17/2008 8:07:09 PM

#815144
Noodle

WTF are circumstantial fossils?

12/17/2008 8:08:30 PM

#815150
El Zorro

Unfortunately it isn't a very educated opinion. I recommend you to read up on the subject to see why the theory explains the data.

12/17/2008 8:10:55 PM
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