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[A thoughtful Christian asks why a $25 million Creation Museum should be built when that money could go to better use helping the poor and starving, and this is one fundie's rebuttal]

I don’t think you are right. I think it is important to feed the hungery and all that crap but i also think that it is important fot people to get the message out about the lies of evolution.

the reason creationist are hitting out at evolution is cuz the church is unbelievable. Church says: HEY! WELCOME TO CHURCH!WE LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE! JESUS LOVES YOU!AND BY THE WAY, EVOLUTION IS CRAP AND NO ONE SHOULD BELIEVE IT!

guess what? no one listens. the world has consistently shown more evidence of evolution than church does. The evolution lie has been out there too long… and the church does nothing about it.if someone bombards the church with evolution crap, i can almost garantee no one will have a winning argument. Unless it goes like this: DUDE, NO ONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION! ITS TOTALLY FALSE, MAN! OH, AND GOD LOVES YOU!

Well, that guy goes away knowing he’s way more smart in evolution than you. He also finds the church doesn’t know the argument. well if the church can’t present any facts, how can it ever move forward? they say, “BELIEVE THIS!” spiritually but they can’t prove anything physically? who is going to ever join the church if we don’t have a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation? cuz if we don’t have a firm physical foundation, who will believe us in the spiritual part of it?

schaffer, www.faithdoubt.com 57 Comments [12/17/2008 6:19:44 AM]
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dpareja

So, you're only for feeding the hungry if they're part of your church, or what?

12/17/2008 6:23:10 AM

Jay-Sus

DUDE, NO ONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION! ITS TOTALLY FALSE, MAN! OH, AND GOD LOVES YOU!

Whoever says that is a master debater.

12/17/2008 6:25:26 AM

Philbert McAdamia

DUDE, NO ONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION! ITS TOTALLY FALSE, MAN! OH, AND GOD LOVES YOU!

Well, that guy goes away knowing he’s way more smart in evolution than you.

A master debater and such a cunning linguist!

12/17/2008 6:28:00 AM

Allegory For Jesus

"feed the hungery and all that crap"

Excuse for not really actually caring about that in 3, 2, 1...

"it is important fot people to get the message out about the lies of evolution."

"So we must waste money to spread our own lies to counteract it!"

"church is unbelievable"
"the world has consistently shown more evidence of evolution than church does. "
" i can almost garantee no one will have a winning argument."
"they say, “BELIEVE THIS!” spiritually but they can’t prove anything physically? who is going to ever join the church if we don’t have a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation?"


I think we are getting dangerously close to actual accuracy here. Try to fix that.

"Unless it goes like this: DUDE, NO ONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION! ITS TOTALLY FALSE, MAN! OH, AND GOD LOVES YOU!"

Are you like, LoneWolf's brother who happened to join a frat or something?

12/17/2008 6:32:09 AM

The Outsider

Feeding the hungry is now crap? I wonder what Jesus would say to that attitude.

12/17/2008 6:32:26 AM

lolmax

wat

12/17/2008 6:41:35 AM

AuroraMike

Deep breath...
Count to 10...
ok, continue please.

12/17/2008 6:42:28 AM

OMGWTFBBQ

your "museum" doesn't show any "facts" either.

12/17/2008 6:48:26 AM

MichaelL

Way to toss the word salad... btw, you're an idiot

12/17/2008 6:50:31 AM

X-Acto Dyke

feed the hungery and all that crap

Soooooooooo.....Jesus ISN'T the figurehead of the Christian Church then? He's not the one you're supposed to emulate? I mean, look at all that time he wasted trying to help those less fortunate than Himself when he should have been like one of those Pharisees he loved so much.

Methinks you're a-going to hell.....

12/17/2008 6:51:15 AM

HoJuSimpson

I think it is important to feed the hungery and all that crap but i also think that it is important fot people to get the message out about the lies of evolution.

You are a borderline illiterate douche.

12/17/2008 7:16:12 AM

Paschal Wagner

Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me a museum ticket, I was thirsty and you told me drinking was a sin, I was a stranger and you asked what church I belonged to, I needed clothes and you accused me of dressing immodestly, I was sick and you told me medical science was of the devil, I was in prison and you put me there.'

12/17/2008 7:24:05 AM

Grimesy

You lost me, are you for or against creationism and the church?

12/17/2008 7:32:04 AM

aaa

This is why world is disgusted by you.

12/17/2008 7:49:57 AM

Clown

Actually, why stop at the museum? What about churches themselves? Such expensive buildings, and the money could be used for something els...

12/17/2008 7:51:56 AM

solomongrundy

who is going to ever join the church if we don’t have a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation?

You don't have 'a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation'.
That's why you need to recruit by brainwashing kids with the half-witted and/or barefaced lying crap displayed in the creation 'museum'.

12/17/2008 8:41:43 AM

Alien Acid

(words)

Waiter, there's a fly in this word salad!

12/17/2008 8:55:31 AM

DW

Maybe the $25 million would be used better for your education....

12/17/2008 9:58:57 AM

Eden

the world has consistently shown more evidence of evolution than church does

Really?
One wonders why this is the case?

The evolution lie has been out there too long

No, the christian church has been out there much longer, so this is definitely not the reason.

He also finds the church doesn’t know the argument. well if the church can’t present any facts, how can it ever move forward? they say, “BELIEVE THIS!” spiritually but they can’t prove anything physically?

Yes, church cannot prove anything physically if they still believe in the literal truth of a collection of books written by humans 2000-3000 years ago

who is going to ever join the church if we don’t have a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation? cuz if we don’t have a firm physical foundation, who will believe us in the spiritual part of it?

Here you are wrong.
People will still readily believe the spiritual parts of your faith. In fact they will more readily believe in the spiritual parts of your faith, if you stop trying to claim superiority over natural sciences and force creationism into school (and if you stop having people like Hovind in your ranks who become the laughing stock of educated people all over the world, in their desperate attempts to convince people that Creationism and the flood are true)

12/17/2008 10:01:50 AM

a mind far far away

I think it is important to feed the hungery and all that crap

Crap? We see what you really think about the poor and hungry.

the reason creationist are hitting out at evolution is cuz the church is unbelievable

The church is unbelievable, huh. I can agree.

guess what? no one listens

Guess what? No one cares.

the world has consistently shown more evidence of evolution than church does

I didn't realize it was a race to see who could prove evolution faster, nor that the church had any part in it. I thought they were predominantly against it.

The evolution lie has been out there too long… and the church does nothing about it

Oh, it's not that you guys aren't trying to discredit evolution, it's that most people are smart enough to see through the creationists' lies.

if someone bombards the church with evolution crap, i can almost garantee no one will have a winning argument

I can absolutely guarantee that.

Well, that guy goes away knowing he’s way more smart in evolution than you

There's a reason for this. Funies don't know the first thing about evolution. They don't even try to study it, they just keep saying the same things over and over, hoping someone is gullible enough to believe them.

He also finds the church doesn’t know the argument

Trust me. They know the argument, they just aren't any good at it.

well if the church can’t present any facts, how can it ever move forward?

Excellent question. As long as the church accepts creationism and not evolution, it CAN'T move forward.

they say, “BELIEVE THIS!” spiritually but they can’t prove anything physically?

Nothing about christianity can be proven 'physically'. It's all nonsense.

who is going to ever join the church if we don’t have a firm, scientific, fact-built foundation?

Besides the fact that faith and reason, science and religion, are two mutually opposed spheres, I don't think you have to worry about this. Most fundies don't care about science and fact, and most non-fundies accept them enough to not accept your BS.

cuz if we don’t have a firm physical foundation, who will believe us in the spiritual part of it?

Another great question. Since there can be no physical evidence of the spiritual, no scientific evidence of the supernatural, you won't be finding anything anytime soon.

One more thing: Learn to type fucking English!

12/17/2008 10:03:53 AM

Moon Wolfhowl

So we hear it from them straight out. Feeding the hungry and taking care of those that need it is "crap".

12/17/2008 10:19:00 AM

Sevagram

Translation: "I'm a self-proclaimed morally superior CHRISTIAN but I can't actually be arsed to attempt any of the difficult stuff Jesus instructed us to do - like feed the hungry and clothe the poor - so I'll take the easy option instead and whinge on about EVILution, even though I know fuck all about the subject. But - hey! - neither do any of my fundie mates, so who's to know? At least I LOOK like I'm doing the Lord's work. Hopefully, He won't notice that I'm really a lazy, good-for-nothing douche bag who really couldn't give a shit about the welfare of my fellow man. So long as I feel JUSTIFIED and comfortable, I'll be all right."

You, sir or madam, are a moral coward and an intellectual pigmy.

12/17/2008 10:28:47 AM

redfergus

The church is unbelievable, all right. Fucking UNBELIEVABLE!

fergus

PS
Er... 'creationist' as a plural? Oh no. How many times have we seen that? It is the spirit of plurality on the attack yet again.

12/17/2008 10:36:50 AM

anevilmeme

Moron fundies can't grasp that science isn't a theology or belief system.

12/17/2008 11:25:31 AM



This guy wants the creation museum so he doesn't ever have to DO anything. He can give a few bucks toward building it and then he's relieved of ever having to work in a soup kitchen or in any way possibly deal with the less fortunate because he's "helping" save their souls. In other words, he's a lazy piece of garbage.

12/17/2008 11:34:34 AM
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