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Atheism vs. Christianity

- Atheism does not have missions to feed the hungry.
- Atheism does not have programs to give shelter to the homeless.
- Atheism does not trouble itself to help the poor or give to the needy.
- Atheism does not clothe the naked or visit the imprisoned.
- Atheism does not give hope to the despairing, does not give love to the needy soul, or open arms to the broken-hearted.
- Atheism does not seek to bring healing to any person.
- Atheism does not intend to encourage the down-trodden.
- Atheism seeks to tear down Love and stop its flow into the hearts of the un-loved.
- During the 20th century, atheists (mostly communists, such as those who followed Stalin) slaughtered untold millions of Christians, Jews, and people of many other religions for the sake of their faith. This still goes on today in places like China.
- Atheism seeks to destroy the hope of Jesus Christ and take love away from a world of people in need of care. In the name of science they proclaim, "there is no God", "we evolved from slime", "the cosmos is an accident". Declaring as gods the foundations and fate of the universe, they ignore the needs of the hearts of men to know that there is a Divine Creator who loves them.
- Because an atheist got God banned from public schools, our children must pass through metal detectors on their way into school where they score worse and worse on educational tests and morals are at an all-time low. They must remember each day the school massacres of the past few years and wonder... if... when... where... who... Does anyone stop to think that this downward trend started the year God was banned from schools?



- Churches have missions to feed the hungry.
- Christians help the poor and clothe the naked.
- Bible-carrying evangelists visit the sick and imprisoned to bring redemption to those that are forgotten and thrown away.
- Preachers minister the healing power of God to those who dare to have faith and forget that miracles are impossible.
- The children of God travel the globe to give light to those in the dark, to show the love of Jesus living through themselves to the ones that He died for 2,000 years ago.
- Jesus gives the world His hope of eternal salvation, His gospel of love, His healing for body and mind and heart.
- It is the Christians, believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who care for the world enough to take a chance on alienating themselves by sharing the hope of salvation with others.

Eternal Choice, Eternal Choice 48 Comments [12/19/2008 4:49:59 AM]
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Mark

What about godless socialist programs like "welfare" and "universal healthcare"?

Canada's public secular public healthcare system has healed more people than all of the churches on Earth throughout all of history. The American secular welfare system has fed more hungry people than all of the churches on Earth throughout all of history. The secular, globalistic WHO has eradicated polio and smallpox -- no religion has every eliminated ANY disease EVER.

12/19/2008 4:58:55 AM

Antichrist

You can't take what the Catholic church and the Salvation army does and say it's your work. You know those rules were for individuals right?

Atheists don't make a big deal about it. We don't need to prove that we deserve better seating in sky-daddies palace.

Wasn't there a post earlier tonight about the evils of atheist run Oxfam?

12/19/2008 5:06:51 AM

HoJuSimpson

Atheism doesn't have a group agenda to recruit people to be nice just to get into a garden of eternal bliss, sucking immaculate cack until 'ever. <--- truth.

12/19/2008 5:07:43 AM

Barikada

Secularists try most of those things. You object and call it socialism.

12/19/2008 5:10:40 AM

Jay-Sus

Missionaries don't pass out condoms in order to stop the spread of HIV, AIDS, ect... Instead you preach to them while they and their families die.

12/19/2008 5:28:04 AM

a mind far far away

He's got his morals wrong and his facts backward.

12/19/2008 5:33:20 AM

Atheist Amy

So for some reason when an atheist donates time or money to a good cause, s/he has done less because s/he doesn't make a habit of going around bragging about what s/he did for sky daddy? But you are somehow entitled to bragging about how you shove religion in the faces of people too helpless to tell you to fuck off? And to make an overly sweeping claim that those who don't share in your acceptance of bronze-age mythology as truth must not do anything? Congratulations, you've obtained self-righteousness.

Your ridiculous collection of goat herder stories does not give you some kind of superior claim to morality. Dipshit.

I second those comments about public health care systems and necessary government welfare programs... what evil to have the government help feed the hungry or heal the sick!! Gasp!

12/19/2008 5:34:33 AM

Shadoboy

Biased, uninformed, lying for Jesus, perjudice, self-righteous, high horse...

Yup, typical fundie,

12/19/2008 5:43:35 AM



Three words: The Red Cross.

No, it doesn't belong to a religious denomination. Those three words really do refute that entire list. Amazing, I know.

12/19/2008 5:56:02 AM

WMDKitty

All those things you say Atheists don't do... yeah, you're wrong. They just don't lord it over the rest of us or use it as an opportunity to spread their philosophy, unlike Christians.

12/19/2008 6:08:40 AM

Malkavian Jeff

Yeah their missionaries also labeled lots of Nigarian children as witches and the 2nd witch trials happened there.

12/19/2008 6:34:39 AM

myheadhurts

- Atheism does not have missions to feed the hungry.

Feeding America:
http://feedingamerica.org/

The Hunger Site:
http://shop.thehungersite.com/store/site.do?siteId=220&link=Store_Header_THS_to_THS

- Atheism does not have programs to give shelter to the homeless.

Among nonprofits, secular agencies operate 51 percent of homeless assistance programs and religious nonprofits operate 34 percent.
http://www.huduser.org/publications/homeless/homelessness/ch_4.html

- Atheism does not trouble itself to help the poor or give to the needy.

see above
Also, I am a Foster mother which qualifies.

- Atheism does not clothe the naked or visit the imprisoned.

Atheists that have family in prison do visit said family.

Helping Hearts thrift shops are usually backed by secular hospitals and have no religious affiliations.
http://www.evergreenhealthcare.org/top_nav/support/auxvolunteers/thriftshop.htm

- Atheism does not seek to bring healing to any person.

There are hospitals with no religious affiliation built by tax payers. Atheists are tax payers.
Also, many specialists are atheist.

- Atheism does not give hope to the despairing, does not give love to the needy soul, or open arms to the broken-hearted.

Foster parenting is not limited to the religious. Nor is adoption.

- Atheism does not intend to encourage the down-trodden.
- Atheism seeks to tear down Love and stop its flow into the hearts of the un-loved.

Answer would be redundant with above information.

-...slaughtered untold millions of Christians, Jews, and people of many other religions for the sake of their faith...

Going by the numbers: Deaths by Christians in the name of Christianity is far higher than any death tolls atheists have managed. Buddhists have the lowest religious death count.

Atheism is not a religion. Atheists do not have doctrine, agendas, or strict sets of rules that they must obey. Thus, individuals may be killers but the entire group cannot be blamed. Christianity, on the other hand, has a book that can be used, and is used, in the most vile ways to justify all manner of cruelty.

The rest of the post is not worth my time as it has already proved utter FAIL.



12/19/2008 6:39:46 AM

electrophilic

Never heard of secular humanism?

12/19/2008 6:57:47 AM

X-Acto Dyke

That's the biggest crock of shit I've read in a reaaaaallly long time. Please take your head out of your ass and visit Planet Reality.

And, tbh, I don't care who the fuck helps the starving/homeless/needy etc so long as someone does and doesn't discriminate against those with differing religious viewpoints. People are people are people. Deal with it.

12/19/2008 7:34:37 AM

Mortok

You can't eat a bible, fuckwit. How about doing something useful?

12/19/2008 7:59:18 AM

UNESCO worker

This is the biggest pack of lies I have yet to come across.
I am a Christian, and my VERY BEST staff are ATHEISTS.
Fundamentalist Christians are the very worst scum of the earth and bring nothing but shame upon a noble belief.

12/19/2008 8:10:38 AM

Jax

Probably because atheists don't feel the need to create organizations to proselytize atheism in order to give to charity.

12/19/2008 8:30:47 AM

FMG

- Atheism does not have missions to feed the hungry.
We have entities such as Oxfam and actual volunteer missions.


- Atheism does not have programs to give shelter to the homeless.


We do. We actually have things such as "help the homeless" and "take back the streets" to protect the homeless and give them the opportunity to get off the streets. Also most of us live under socialist countries where homeless people are rare.


- Atheism does not trouble itself to help the poor or give to the needy.


See Oxfam again.


- Atheism does not clothe the naked or visit the imprisoned.


No. We understand that people are in prison for a reason. We visit those who do not deserve to be in prison. We call that Amnesty International.


- Atheism does not give hope to the despairing, does not give love to the needy soul, or open arms to the broken-hearted.


Because we give real things. Hope comes from people helping themselves and we help them to do that. Poetry makes no difference because no one would listen to us because you assume that we cannot do those things.


- Atheism does not seek to bring healing to any person.


We have Medicin Sans Frontiers and the WHO. Guess who wins this argument.


- Atheism does not intend to encourage the down-trodden.


We encourage more socialism and so are IN FAVOUR of the down trodden.


- Atheism seeks to tear down Love and stop its flow into the hearts of the un-loved.


Your confusing us with the Blue Meanie.


- During the 20th century, atheists (mostly communists, such as those who followed Stalin) slaughtered untold millions of Christians, Jews, and people of many other religions for the sake of their faith. This still goes on today in places like China.


No, your confusing Stalin who killed people because they were percieved threats with Hitler who killed people for being Jewish. Guess who was the christian.


- Atheism seeks to destroy the hope of Jesus Christ and take love away from a world of people in need of care. In the name of science they proclaim, "there is no God", "we evolved from slime", "the cosmos is an accident". Declaring as gods the foundations and fate of the universe, they ignore the needs of the hearts of men to know that there is a Divine Creator who loves them.


You want a creator. Just because you want a lie to be true does not make it true.


- Because an atheist got God banned from public schools, our children must pass through metal detectors on their way into school where they score worse and worse on educational tests and morals are at an all-time low. They must remember each day the school massacres of the past few years and wonder... if... when... where... who... Does anyone stop to think that this downward trend started the year God was banned from schools?


See, here I was thinking that's due to the glorification of violence and the vigilante culture of the US and it's reliance on guns rather than "faith". Cause if we look at jails, more christians than atheists.

12/19/2008 9:06:16 AM

GreenEyedLilo

No, it's just that there are atheist doctors, atheist volunteers, secular charities like Oxfam, America's Second Harvest, and Doctors Without Borders...

It is the Christians, believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who care for the world enough to take a chance on alienating themselves by sharing the hope of salvation with others.

Whatever. Atheists don't ask people to sit through a sermon before they feed or heal them.

12/19/2008 9:22:52 AM

Beeblebrox

Here is a partial list of secular charities. I'm sure you'll recognize at least some of them; for instance, the Red Cross.

http://techskeptic.blogspot.com/2007/12/atheist-charities.html

Incidentally, I saved the life of a homeless man by getting him access to medical treatment (tissue necrosis in his foot). Then I reuinted him with his sisters and helped him apply for disability and find a place to live. While all that was going on I was also putting together food and necessity packages out of my own pocket and taking them to desperate people living in crack and hooker infested neighborhoods.

I also made connections with local charity programs. I've gotten people medications, clothes, diapers, Bibles, pots and pans, etc.. I even managed to help a single mother keep her electricity on by convincing our local power company to give her an extra couple of weeks to get the money together.

What have you done to make the world a better place?

12/19/2008 10:08:57 AM

anevilmeme

Another one that doesn't understand atheism isn't a religion, a theology or a political movement.

12/19/2008 10:54:48 AM

szaleniec

"Because an atheist got God banned from public schools, our children must pass through metal detectors on their way into school where they score worse and worse on educational tests"

... grade inflation disagrees with you.

12/19/2008 10:58:15 AM

aaa

Sigh... Have you ever contributed anything to mankind?

12/19/2008 11:12:20 AM

Upallnite

Bill Gates, now shut the fuck up.

Also, I fix cars for people that can't afford an expensive shop bill for free. OK, sometimes I charge a six pack.

12/19/2008 12:43:25 PM

Doctor Whom

Secular charities exist, and they don't demand that people renounce their magic sky pixie in exchange for a bit of food.

12/19/2008 12:59:27 PM
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