"Athesists hate Christianity because it exposes their error."
No, we hate you because for SOME REASON you see fit to dictate TO US what WE do and do not hate. Fuck you, you egotistical asshat.
As your premise is wrong I am going to pointedly not even read anything else you said. You lose. Good day, sir.
12/19/2008 9:13:39 AM
One has to admire the honesty. Stupid but honest.
12/19/2008 9:27:25 AM
Sorry to hear that thinking was too hard for you.
12/19/2008 9:37:30 AM
Rat of Steel
"Their religion requires a lot of mental gymnastics."
So, atheism is a religion now, huh?
Can we have those tax exemptions that you Christians who've been saying that Christianity isn't a religion have effectively forsaken?
12/19/2008 9:53:20 AM
Yes, your religion requires faith, it's not simple though to truly have faith. Faith must be blind to everything around it. Faith has nothing to do with atheists or the issue of why we don't believe. It's the point that so much of the bible does not make sense, contradicts its self, blatantly infactual and wrong, cruel, inhumane and downright evil.
Do you understand this? doubtful. Do you truly believe? If faith to you is simple, you most likely don't know what faith is, or are just blindly ignorant of anything on a realistic plane
12/19/2008 9:55:17 AM
So simple in fact, that even a child can get it!
Yes folks, simplicity is the virtue here, much like it was in elementary arithmetic when we were children. Addition was so simple in fact, that even a child can get it! Long division can't claim the same. That form of math requires a lot of mental gymnastics.
Conclusion: Long division is clearly wrong. Also, Praise Jesus!
12/19/2008 10:00:59 AM
Christianty doesn't start with mental gymnastics
Somebody has never heard of St. Thomas Aquinas, which doesn't surprise me.
12/19/2008 10:15:49 AM
One more time: Atheists don't give a flying shit about or your religious beliefs. YOU are the ones obsessed with them, crowing your imagined superiority!
12/19/2008 10:21:00 AM
I don't hate Christianity, or Christians. I don't even hate fundamentalists. At worst, I find fundies to be frustratingly stupid. But most of the time I think they're (unintentionally) very amusing, especially when they say things like this: "Christianity doesn't start with mental gymnastics, it starts with simple faith. So simple in fact a child can get it. Atheists can't claim the same. Their religion requires a lot of mental gymnastics."
12/19/2008 10:36:12 AM
Christianity doesn't start
That's just the thing - you have to be taught to believe in sky faeries.
12/19/2008 10:37:13 AM
A swing and a miss.
12/19/2008 10:48:54 AM
If it requires thinking it's bad!
Sums up christianity quite nicely.
12/19/2008 10:49:20 AM
Faith - So easy, a caveman can do it!
12/19/2008 10:54:34 AM
"it exposes their error"
Which is what pray tell?
"Their religion requires a lot of mental gymnastics"
Christianity, being simpler, does not require any sort of mental effort whatsoever. I see a pattern.
12/19/2008 11:36:57 AM
Man Called True
"Atheists can't claim the same. Their religion requires a lot of mental gymnastics."
...Actually, part of why I came to atheism is because I was tired of the effort it was taking me to believe in God.
12/19/2008 11:55:03 AM
You need a lot more than faith to survive.
12/19/2008 11:56:46 AM
Christians hate Atheism because it exposes their error.
12/19/2008 11:58:29 AM
So you're saying atheists are stupid because they're smart?
12/19/2008 12:25:31 PM
"Christianity doesn't start with mental gymnastics"
Spinning around in circles isn't gymnastics?
12/19/2008 12:25:33 PM
"Christianity doesn't start with mental gymnastics, it starts with simple faith."
For many Christians, this is true, and it also is as far as they get - simple, blind, unthinking faith.
However, if you want to make any sense of the Bible (and what your pastor/minister preaches, as much of the time they merely pick pieces of verses out of the Bible to suit whatever message they want to deliver), you absolutely must include mental gymnastics. You have to:
- Reconcile how it is possible for God to love everyone, yet send unbelievers to Hell even though he doesn't WANT to, given that God has unlimited power to do anything and effect his will at all times.
- Rationalize what the difference is between a world without prayer, and a world where prayer often leads to an answer of "no you can't have your way."
- Explain away (usually through the all-encompassing Evil Atheist Conspiracy) the mountains of scientific evidence that contradict every aspect of the first ten chapters of Genesis.
- Explain why God needed four people to write the Gospel, and four conflicting accounts at that, when an all-powerful and all-knowing God should easily be capable of providing one coherent, non-conflicting book about one person's life and message.
- Defend the need to understand the Bible as "literal truth" while simultaneously holding the position that not everything in the Bible can be understood literally.
And that's just for starters.
12/19/2008 12:37:14 PM
He has a point. It would take quite a lot of mental gymnastics to be an atheist and follow a religion.
I'm not sure that describes many atheists though.
12/19/2008 12:43:26 PM
Religion is for the simple minded
Didn't they teach you in school to reduce the thought to a simple sentence and edit out the words not needed?
12/19/2008 12:48:20 PM
"The consequences of that exposure is that they will continue to live but it won't be in heaven."
So I get eternal life and none of that eternal worshipping God nonsense ?
Sounds good to me
12/19/2008 12:57:32 PM
Christianity doesn't start with mental gymnastics, it starts with simple faith.
But it quickly progresses to mental gymnastics as Christians try desperately to reconcile what they want the Bible to say with what it says.
12/19/2008 1:03:52 PM
because atheists aren't content with lying to themselves, and making up stories about an imaginary, invisible father figure just because they fear death.
12/19/2008 1:28:31 PM