Recently my sister-in-law committed suicide, and I attended the funeral with my wife and five children. At the funeral there was much talk of how the aforementioned sister-in-law is in a better place, which as I Christian I know not to be true. Suicide is an act against God that is punished with burning hellfire for all eternity. I don't want my kids to get the idea that my sister-in-law is in a better place, because that would be lying to them about the intentions of God and His punishments. My wife has been unreceptive to my wishes to tell my children of this, so how can I convince her that I'm right. If I can't, I'll tell the kids anyway, if this is the case, how do I tell them?
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"My wife has been unreceptive to my wishes to tell my children of this"
What a surprise? I mean if someone close to me died the first thing I want to hear is that they were set to be tortured by demons and burn for all eternity.
How about this. I know the idea of compassion will be foreign to you, but this might work, and keep the family in tact at the same time. Just leave it alone. Don't say anything, and let your family mourn in peace. Keep your beliefs to yourself. I know you're a jackass who doesn't care about other people, but this would be the best way for all. No one is infringing on your beliefs by them saying she's in a better place. And you're not huting your family by having such a mean and cruel spirit. How's that?
My wife has been unreceptive to my wishes to tell my children of this, so how can I convince her that I'm right. If I can't, I'll tell the kids anyway, if this is the case, how do I tell them?
Because your a dick?
. I don't want my kids to get the idea that my sister-in-law is in a better place, because that would be lying to them about the intentions of God and His punishments.
I don't recall the Bible ever espousing a position with regard to suicide. The idea that suicide is a sin has its origins in church tradition, not the Scriptures.
My wife has been unreceptive to my wishes to tell my children of this, so how can I convince her that I'm right.
You should try punching her. Uppity b****es need to be kept in their place.
I hope like hell you are a Poe, because if not, you are a sick fuck for wanting scare your own kids like that. Bad enough they lost their aunt, but you want to compound it with your beliefs.
I smell Poe because of the name... BUT, if this is true, if I were your wife, I'd kick you in the balls, then leave you, you heartless bastard. You are seriously deluded if you believe that shit.
I don't know anything about this apart from what this horrible man has written, but perhaps a good way to discuss this awful event is by talking about how people can be very sick with a mental illness such as depression as well as with a physical illness like chicken pox; and that the children's auntie really wasn't very well at all and because of the way she was sick she couldn't get the help she needed.
I really hope this is a poe - otherwise this man should win the compassion-free christian award of 2008. He's already told his wife that her sister is burning in hell.
My wife has been unreceptive to my wishes to tell my children of this, so how can I convince her that I'm right. If I can't, I'll tell the kids anyway, if this is the case, how do I tell them?
It's always pathetically revealing when they do this. If you need to ask this question, you can't possibly have any grounds whatsoever to believe that you're right in the first place, otherwise you'd know the fucking arguments yourself.
Just whack them really hard in the solar plexus with a gigantic Jesus-bearing plank and tell them
"Your aunt, who was so troubled by her life situation that the only way she could escape from the pain was to end her life, is having her flesh ripped off again & again forever & ever & ever in the most horrible place imaginable"
I'm sure they'll understand...
Fucking cunt
I think he should not only tell them about their aunt burning in eternal hell-fire, but that they too will likely end up there, particularly if they even touch themselves "down there."
(There must be some sort of psychopathology that makes people want to believe in hell. If you read the fundies, many of them positively relish the thought of the suffering of the damned. At the very least, people who believe in hell must have other, really twisted, beliefs. If anyone knows of any reputable research in the area, it'll save me a lot of googling. )
You've no more idea than the man in the moon where your sister-in-law is. The only thing you have is a belief. I know fundamentalists equate belief with knowledge.
However, the only knowledge I have which might have any bearing on the subject at all is, you have children involved here, so do what ever you can to avoid fucking them up mentally.
Belief is a stupid thing.
There are a few gems in the answers. I especially like the ones who answer poe with poe, like this one:
"Mr. Burns...may i call you Frank?? any hoo, you're a good father. i think you and your wife should do a realistic re-enactment of your SIL's suicide. use real blood if you can. once you re-enact the suicide, re-enact the fires of hell and burning in hell. use a lot of recorded screaming and crying for good sound effect. this should work well for the children. good luck and youtube this if you can." - hawt milf
Get over it, you hunk of shit.
Is it really gonna to help the situation if you spout your insensitive dogma to your family? Will it make anyone feel better?
NO.
How the fuck do you think this "news" will affect them? You don't care about your children, just reassuring yourself of your idiotic, bronze age beliefs.
Show me in the bible where suicide is a sin. That was only developed by the catholic church to stop the serfs from jumping ship on their lords.
Your telling your wife (I'm assuming the sister of the victim) that she should tell her kids that her sister is in hell? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!
If not a troll, then this is... this is like a child's reasoning. Nary a single thought for anyone except himself and his beliefs, which he seems to be believe are unerringly right, even though there is absolutely no scriptural basis for the punishing of suicides. It's a church tradition, based off a "all life belongs to God" argument. It doesn't specifically appear in the bible.
Go ahead, tell the kids. I am astonished how some 5 year old kids can tell when an adult is being an idiot. However, if they can't, I hope they'll ask some more psychologically stable adults for some real answer. From what you say, I believe your wife will be a more positive influence...
If a kid tells you you are ugly, trust me, you are. Same goes if a kid tells you you're an idiot.
By the way, I showed this posting to my kids (13 and 15) and they both agreed you are an idiot. So you are.
Personnaly, I think you are beyond sick.
Yes, I'm sure the children will find solace in the knowledge that their mother, whom they likely feel a great deal of sorrow in the fact that, assuming they're older, didn't pick up on her despair and help her out of it, or if they are younger, just feel flatly abandoned by their mother, will find a great deal of solace in the fact that she's burning in hell for all eternity.
You are a moron, a ghoul, and have all the tact of a goddamned vulture.
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