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(This whole page "Should a Christian Celebrate Christmas?" lists everything from Christmas carols to Christmas ham as evil)

1. The blasphemous "Christ's Mass" shortened to "Christ-mas" -- The Roman Catholic "Christ's Mass" is a special mass performed in celebration of Christ's birth. In this mass, Jesus is considered both the priest and the victim, represented by the Catholic priest who offers Him as a sacrifice each time the mass is performed. In offering this "sacrifice," the priest believes he has the power to change the bread and the wine of the Communion into Jesus' literal flesh and blood, requiring the people to worship these elements as they do God Himself. This is obviously a denial of the gospel, and thereby, a false gospel (a re-doing of the sacrifice for sin -- Heb. 9:12, 24-26; 10:10,12,14). Yet, many who cry out all year long against the blasphemous Roman Catholic system, at year-end embrace Rome's most blasphemous abomination of them all -- Christmas!

unknown, Biblical Discernment Ministries 34 Comments [12/21/2008 3:26:45 AM]
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Rat of Steel

Does the term "symbolism" mean anything to the person who originally typed this shit? I'm inclined to think it doesn't.

12/21/2008 3:34:15 AM


Wow. Too Christian to celebrate Christmas, is that what he's trying to say?

12/21/2008 3:40:05 AM


I'd try to go in to see what he DOES regard as good, but Jesus-is-Saviour would probably pale in comparison to this...

12/21/2008 3:42:22 AM

Old Viking

All versions of all religions are delusional.

12/21/2008 4:01:26 AM

Mr. Creazil

Going for the world record of "Most uses of the word blasphemy (and variations) in a single paragraph."

12/21/2008 4:28:10 AM

a mind far far away

I'm going to play pope's advocate here for a second. The Eucharist is not a sacrifice performed week by week. They view the sacrament as a continuous sacrifice that stands outside of time. Also, the priest does not have, nor does he claim to have, the power to turn the bread and wine into christ's body and blood, but that, by the performance of the epiclesis, in which he calls on the holy spirit, that the holy spirit is the one who comes down and changes the bread and wine into the body and blood of christ. The priest acts as a sort of mediator, as the officiating member of the congregation, called to act in their behalf. Now, the adoration of the sacrament is based on the idea of transubstantiation, in which the bread is no longer bread, but the body of christ, spiritually, mystically, and physically. This is where catholic theology on the real presence differs with the eastern orthodox, who, while believing in the real presence, believes that it's a mystical occurence. However, the belief in the real presence in the eucharist is not a denial of the gospel, as both jesus and paul taught it. Ritual cannibalism? Yes. Unbiblical? No.

12/21/2008 4:37:34 AM


So, is this fundie declaring "War On Christmas!?"

12/21/2008 5:02:56 AM


Quite the snob, aren't we? Christmas isn't good enough for the likes of us. No, that kind of thing is just for the poor deluded masses.

We demand champagne and caviar! That's what the gospels teach us.

12/21/2008 5:26:20 AM



12/21/2008 5:37:40 AM


What in the hoo haw? Where in Catholic liturgy is there any mention of worshiping the sacrament or the Priest performing it?

I always love it when the REAL Christians point out the false ones...

12/21/2008 5:57:11 AM

lol wut

12/21/2008 6:24:20 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

We've finally come full circle. Fundies have ran out of other things to declare sinful, so now they're labeling their own religion as evil. It's... beautiful, in a retarded sort of way.

12/21/2008 6:50:08 AM

This site is so full of shit it hurts (especially given I'm a pagan).

"Nearly every form of pagan worship descended from the Babylonian mysteries, which focus attention on the "mother-goddess" and the birth of her child. "

This theme is NOT in all pagan religions.

" "Yule" is a Chaldean word meaning "infant." Long before the coming of Christianity, the heathen Anglo-Saxons called the 25th of December "Yule day" "

WTF have the Chaldeans got to do with the Anglo-Saxons.
Yule comes from the Old Norse "jul" which apparently meant wheel.

12/21/2008 7:10:24 AM

Good to see that some fundies at least believe what the Bible says about Christmas. They don't deserve any presents from Santa Claus.

12/21/2008 8:22:38 AM


Wow. Reading the website, this guy out-fundies most of the fundies we see. It's also crammed with wild misinterpretation of scricpture, and as #869879, said, full of shit about paganism, too.

I bet he never got the presents he wanted when he was a kid and this is one big backlash :-)

12/21/2008 8:54:48 AM


Doesn't he realize that the Roman priesthood never intended for the bible to be directly accessed by the Great Unwashed?

12/21/2008 9:09:35 AM

WTF doe fundies insist on cherry picking passages from a book that is bolloks?

12/21/2008 9:44:09 AM


Yep, bonkers.

12/21/2008 9:51:57 AM


Christmas is barely religious anymore. Secular people took that holiday for a ride :] By the time I have grandchildren there probably won't be any mention of Jesus.

12/21/2008 12:03:27 PM

Argle Bargle

@ Mrs. Antichrist

I'm still waiting for the day when they declare breathing sinful.

12/21/2008 1:04:13 PM


You know, those "Christians" who refuse to celebrate Christmas and Easter because of their pagan origins must live grim, joyless lives.

Just sayin'.

12/21/2008 1:17:07 PM


Well, technically Christians, according to their book of love (whatever) are not supposed to celebrate Christ's birth. So by that means, all that do are seen as unchristian by the true fundamentalists

12/21/2008 2:10:58 PM

The Lazy One


Just wow.

This is why fundies and drugs don't mix.

12/21/2008 2:17:07 PM

Percy Q. Shun

And yet you fucksticks get all bent out of shape if I wish you "Happy Holidays."

12/21/2008 2:32:28 PM


the priest believes he has the power to change the bread and the wine of the Communion into Jesus' literal flesh and blood ... This is obviously a denial of the gospel.

Actually, I think the RC priest believes God changes the bread and the wine of the Communion into Jesus' literal flesh and blood as a result of the congregation's offering on the altar. As for denial, how does Unknown explain:

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever." John 6:53-58

12/21/2008 2:57:32 PM

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