(Love letters from God indeed...)
Illiterate goat herding fiction writers
We hear that charge frequently from atheists and agnostics, but that charge
only illustrates their ignorance of the Bible and/or their hatred of it and Him.
But in the Bible, we have 66 separate letters of love from God Himself, authored
by approximately forty people over 1,500 years.
These documents combine to form an intricately woven, progressive narrative
of His presence in our lives and His love for us. They contain hundreds of
prophecies, fulfilled and soon to be fulfilled.
Following are just a handful of those prophecies, all related to the life of Christ.
How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and
connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?
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A denial of logic, reason, and reality doesn't mean it's not right, just that you don't want to accept what is real.
Really. Would you like to give us even one completely unambiguous prophecy, one which could not possibly be written after the fact? Like, for instance, "Yea verily, Studebaker will go tits up in the Year of Our Lord 1966".
Hey guys, I found that missing 67th letter. Must have gotten lost in the mail or something....
"Dear Humanity,
Just writing to apologize for a few things. I accidentally imbued you and your descendants with original sin. Then my toilet got clogged and I flooded the whole world...sorry about that. But don't worry -- I forgave myself and kept the genocide at a tolerable level for a few centuries. I'll make it up to you by giving you a lifetime pass to eternal suffering if you want it. If you don't get this message, I'll just go ahead and assume you do. Talk to you later! Bye.
Love and kisses,
God"
"but that charge
only illustrates their ignorance of the Bible and/or their hatred of it and Him."
ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS DON'T AND CAN'T HATE GOD.
"But in the Bible, we have 66 separate letters of love from God Himself, authored by approximately forty people over 1,500 years."
And that proves what exactly?...Not to mention that books are excluded from the Bible such as the Gospels of Mary, Thomas, and Judas. Furthermore lots of people wrote under pseudonyms so we don't know if these people actually existed or not.
"These documents combine to form an intricately woven"
contradictory fairy tale.
"How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?"
How were they detailed? Good story writers....well, not in my humble opinion. Connectivity? Hardly. The Bible is full of contradictions and the New Testament is poorly put together in a vain attempt to make Jesus the Messiah.
It's pretty easy to make things "miraculously" match up when:
A.) Your control committee gets to select 66 bits from hundreds of sources on the same general topic;
B.) All this gets translated through three or four languages for 1,600 years or so, with each generation of copyists and translators striving to make all those mismatched edges mesh smoothly; and
C.) You've been trained from birth to rationalize the remaining contradictions and swallow the incredible as commonplace.
No miracle required - only complacency, ignorance and cowardice.
By that reasoning, I can say that all the stories of King Arthur are true. There's historical occurrences and real physical places that match up with those described in the legends, and they all say about the same thing, aside from a few discrepancies, regardless of the author or time in which they were written. So I ask you, do you believe that King Arthur and his knights existed as the stories say? Didn't think so. Apply the same reasoning to your bible for once.
Someone needs to watch PBS's "Lost Secrets of the Bible" - available for FREE on the website.
Actually, screw that - read the damn bible first. It'll make more sense and maybe you'll stop confusing the Queen of Heaven with Mary.
How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?
They did back then exactly what you guys are doing now: shoehorning any idle speculation that drifts by into your big bullshit myth. You're constrained from adding to the book o'lies when they weren't, but that doesn't stop you from playing the fanfic bit ... and taking it seriously.
Letters of love? So explain the passages where your bloodthirsty loving father in heaven seems to take pleasure in the wanton killing of innocent babies? Innocent men, women and children? Unless your god is a fucking sadist, there is no god-damned reason for this. So fuck you and the rest of you rapturists. I think the only time you people can get a hard-on is when you think of the eternal suffering and torture of those of us that won't get on our fucking knees and suck your god's dick.
You do know that you writing down a prophecy in a book, and then writing down later that it was fulfilled, without any corroborating evidence doesn't count, right?
From God himself? Intricately woven? Progressive narrative?
Inspired, perhaps. Antiquated prose that looked old-fashioned when it was written. Haphazard collection of yarns that don't even agree with each other.
People who say otherwise obviously don't read much other literature.
How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and
connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?
What detail? What connectivity?
The prophecies are bullshit. Have a close look at your precious inerrant bible, you'll find the prophecies don't agree with the later narrative.
Which is really quite incompetent, when you consider that the people who wrote the later books must have had some familiarity with the earlier ones, and the whole collection of books was later heavily edited by the church who also, evidently, failed to clear up any inconsistencies, of which there remain quite a lot.
"How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and
connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?"
Because people went in later and re-edited?
*edit* Damn, ozznova beat me to it. :)
"They contain hundreds of
prophecies, fulfilled and soon to be fulfilled."
name me one that has come true...go on..you can't can you?
Intricately woven?!?! HAHAHAHA..more like haphazardly slapped together with a threat of eternal torture for anyone who says otherwise. Self fulfilling prophecies do not count as proof of accuracy. Hell, read Dune, and you will see that all of the prophesies for arracus were fullfilled as well when the dreamer awoke.
"These documents combine to form an intricately woven, progressive narrative
of His presence in our lives and His love for us. They contain hundreds of
prophecies, fulfilled and soon to be fulfilled. "
what a load of horse shit, only a brain washed idiot thinks theres a "woven progressive narrative" in the text.
i have yet to see anyone honestly look at the OT without an NT filter, when it comes to looking at how the ot books relate to each other
"authored by approximately forty people over 1,500 years."
You just wrecked your own argument. You lose.
Because they wrote, in the year 500 BC, when they have learnt to write, myths passed from mouth to mouth from years?
“How did these "illiterate goat herding fiction writers" manage such detail and
connectivity across 66 books and hundreds of years?”
You’ve never heard of ‘editors,’ have you?
Ever heard of the Articles of Faith? THose were invented by committee. Defined the essential dogma that made ‘christainity’ what it is.
All the books of the Bible were tested against the AoF before inclusion. It’s not that amazing a product.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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