1) The only moment that exists is the now.
2) Since the only moment that exists is the now, previous moments don't exist.
3) The property of existence is occurance in the present tense.
4) The past never existed.
5) All we have are memories and relics of past moments.
6) Where there is not memory or documentation of past moments, these moments cannot be verified.
Evolution requires both memory and documentation of past moments to be claimed as fact. If you ask me, evolution is so full of holes that scientists have to make up information to fill in the holes. The validity and verification of past moments decreases the further back they go.
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The idea that the only moment is now is more about how we as (mostly) sentient beings perceive time.
also, MERRY CHRISTMAS FSTDT!!!!!!!!!!!
C.S.: You're looking at Now, sir. Everything that's happening Now is happening now.
D.H.: What happened to Then?
C.S.: We passed Then.
D.H.: When?
C.S.: Just Now. Were at Now, now.
EDIT: Dammit! Someone beat me to it!
Aaaah,,, this is Am,,,, stuporsport's chief supporter over at CARM.
Am,,, since there are precisely ZERO contemporary documents mentioning the name of Jesus, and none of the gospel writers actually met him, do you see the problem with your argument?
I guess it's a good thing that nobody is asking your opinion on evolution, then?
Hey, have some respect here. This is obviously the real ruler of the universe!
*Don't mind me, Douglas Adams joke*
Did you really just use numbers 4, 5 and 6 in the same argument? Annabelle, you realize that they contradict each other, right?
I'm not sure which is sadder, that Annabelle believes this appallingly flawed argument or that she expects anyone else to believe it.
Never mind. She probably felt important for a few seconds.
As a wise old turtle said, " You can't change the past, it is done. The future is a mystery, we don't know what it will be. We have only the present which is a gift from the gods. That's why it's the present."
Merry Christmas, guys and gals. Happy Holidays! Joyeux Noel, mes amis! May each new year be brighter than the last.
Just a question, the past exists, yes or no?. In that case, dear, you have a serious ontological problem.
@ The Outsider: Yeah, this is the old Omphalos "hypothesis", which is of course a subset of Solipsism. Gosse would be pleased.
@ Mister Spak: Heathen! It was last Thursday.
Just as good as, if I kick you 5 feet one way, and then 5 feet the opposite way, I haven't kicked you.
Congratulations, AM. You've just become a Last Thursdayist.
Now apply your... "logic"... to your religion.
Annabelle talks about holes in theories :)
1) ack
2) ack
3) ack, I guess
4) ack, but I believe my understanding of 4) to be different from its writers unterstanding
Whatever.
The point is: If I throw a stone into Annabelle's face, why does she bleed then?
Okay, guys? Let's scoot aside religious views for a moment. Let's ignore the last three sentences. Instead, let's put rule 1 and rule 5 side-by-side. This, my friends, is a paradox. HOW DOES HE NOT NOTICE THIS?!
Never have I seen a more incomprehensible mess since stumbling upon the page for Truthism.
If the past never existed, how can we have memories and relics from the past?
Nobody is asking you, luckily.
We can see evolution going on in the now. Just ask Dr Lenski, or any flu vaccine manufacturer.
The benefits of having a working knowledge of evolution, such as advances in medicine, agriculture and aerodynamics, are paying off for you and for society as a whole now.
Ancient myths, by contrast, are relics of the past, with no applicable benefit to society as a whole now.
Your side still loses.
"The only moment that exists is the now" "The past never existed" LOL, this just smacks of Zen! Not that I have a problem with Zen, but this girl is supposedly Christian...and yet she sounds more Zen Buddhist to me.
So, but if the past doesn't exist, then how do those past relics or moemories confirm anything? They prove something that doesn't exist...does. You can't have it both ways. Either 4 is fallacious or 5 is. Either way, your line of thought falls apart like a wet tissue.
We have plenty of relics that prove eveloution. They are called fossils. If you have relics (fossils) this proved that the creature existed. There are
Every event that happened in the past happened. Just because it left no record of evidence dosent meen it didn't happen it only means that we will never know about it. If you had to know a thing existed you could not be shot by a gun that shoots it's bullet faster than the speed of sound because since the bullet hitting is the first thing you experiance then the noise of the bullet and gunshot. When the bullet hits you it has no accesible history and by your "argument" cannot exist. Getting shot will make a beliver in its reality.
This is the most desprate argument against eveloution i have ever heard!
Excess bong residue and inbreading has made this one insane in the membrane!!!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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