The B man

I'm brazilian, but I've not found the link to the news, could anyone post it here so I can translate?

12/29/2008 1:52:31 AM

ausador

But...why are you stockpiling anything? I thought you Fundies believed in the pre-tribulation rapture in which case you will not be around for any of the nasty stuff.

Ohh...thats right, it is because you don't actually believe the few rather thin scriptures that have been stretched out of all recognition to create your rapture fantasy, correct?

Face it, just like you have doubts about a "loving god", you fear the pre-tribulation "rapture" is a make believe fantasy also. You instinctively know the jealous, spiteful, needy and revengeful god you know from your bible is not going to let you off the hook that easy, don't you?

Thats right, you'll be here with the rest of us until only a quarter of the worlds population is left alive. Your loving god is going to subject you to the same horrible fate us the rest of us.

But never forget he is doing it because he knows you are a faithful servant and he loves you.

Or, maybe your angry and all too human god doesn't exist so there is no reason to fear, to stockpile, or to worry.

If you want to live in fear of something that you don't really believe in then go right ahead...but there is the option of disbelief. It is quite freeing, you might like it.

12/29/2008 3:21:26 AM

Well I guess a bible could make a pretty good weapon if you throw it hard enough.

12/29/2008 4:12:08 AM

agentCDE

I seriously doubt you'll be able to convert the zombies when they rise up. They're usually just concerned about your brains. But, hey, whatever, more guns and food for me.

12/29/2008 4:20:42 AM

Thejebusfire

Maybe next time he'll think twice before being a bigot.

Oh and I am not stockpiling weapons and food, stocklpile bibles instead.

Good, starve to death.
One less fundie idiot.

12/29/2008 4:29:27 AM

1BurningStake

Siberia, are you Brazilian? If so, thank you for the update about the laws of your country. The last time I did any real research on Brazil was in the 4th grade when I did a group report on it!

12/29/2008 6:35:52 AM

Apparently, empathy is not one of your assests.

12/29/2008 10:24:47 AM

Orion

$834? That's a paltry amount of money for actually publishing.
$834 would be an amount more appropriate for announcing such a belief in a public area.

12/29/2008 11:23:29 AM

Mister Spak

Because bibles are nutritious.

12/29/2008 12:14:24 PM

Siberia

@ BurningStake: yes, I am. :) You're welcome.

The book's name was A Maldição de Deus Sobre o Homosexual: o homosexual precisa conhecer a maldição divina que está sobre ele (The Damnation of God over the Homosexual: the homosexual needs to know the divine damnation that is upon him). All the news I read are either from religious sites or gay-oriented sites, so I don't trust them all that much. The one reference I found from a neutral site reports the president of the Association of Travestites and Transsexuals of Mato Grosso do Sul (where the book was reputedly banned) condemning the book for inciting hatred and religious fanaticism.

According to those news, the book apparently incites discrimination against homosexuals by saying they come from deformed families, that they are demonic and depraved and that they incite unsuspecting adolescents and adults to practice sodomy, "malicious and treacherously". Also, it apparently mentions the death penalty as well. No site I've read elaborates on that tidbit.

The death penalty is banned in the Brazilian Constitution of 1988.

The judge declared that the book violates the right for the dignity of the human person, which is one of the foundations of our Constitution, as well as equality and that the author extrapolated his right for freedom of expression when he attributed pejorative and personal opinions to the homosexuals. Also, he banned it under the justification that it might incite violence against homosexuals (it's apparently that virulent).

The banning of the book and the paying of R$2k were decided in separate collective lawsuits (I think... I suck at English legal terms) against the author. That is a right predicted in our constitution, the right to answer if one's dignity is damaged by another's freedom of speech.

Another site says homosexuals burned the book in front of the church the author attends, and staged a protest with banners displaying "dignity" and "discrimination is a crime" in front of said church, as well as placing 20 crosses symbolizing the 20 homosexuals killed between 2006 and 2007 in Mato Grosso's capital.

A site mentions that seven travestites were murdered in the vicinity of where the book was published that year (2007).

IMHO, the judge acted correctly when the Constitution is considered. It is very clear that discrimination is not OK.

12/29/2008 3:30:02 PM

draco_nite

They shouldn't have confiscated that book. Free speech DOES go both ways.

2/12/2009 5:42:49 PM

LDM

Stockpile bibles all you want. More food and weapons for the rest of us.

2/12/2009 5:44:16 PM

The Brazilian

draco_nite

Free speech doesn´t mean freedom of its consequences. And besides the fine was suspendend. The book, as much as I can gatered, even incite people to stalk gays... not in the nice way.

5/14/2012 3:48:57 AM