I believed that evolution and the account of the Bible about creation could exist along side of each other very well. I just didn't see what the big argument was all about. I had some friends who had been studying the Bible much longer than I had who saw it differently...Eventually, I came to the conclusion, through my study of the Bible and science, that the two positions of evolution and creation just could not fit together. There are some real problems with the idea that God created through evolution... My prayer is that you will have this same experience!
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth, an earth that was filled with vegetation and beauty...man and dinosaurs lived at the same time...From the very beginning of creation, God gave man dominion over all that was made, even over the dinosaurs.
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I believed that evolution and the account of the Bible about creation could exist along side of each other very well. (...) Eventually, I came to the conclusion
Oh, do pray tell, what specific facts and arguments convinced you?
Any time you're ready.
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth
Hence all the mentions of dinosaurs in the Bible. Yup. All of them. Hundreds... well, dozens... well, not one. But let's pretend it's in there.
man and dinosaurs lived at the same time
No, you goddamn fucking idiot, humans and dinosaurs did not coexist. I was never exposed to that crap, even when I was a Christian. I didn't know about this until I got in the Internet. And if something as simple as that brings Christianity crashing to the ground, good riddance.
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth
Then why doesn't the Genesis state that "God created big reptiles on day X" during the creation week if they really did coexist with human beings?
@Dark_Lord_Prime: Actually, by inviting this nutjob to deliver the inaugural prayer, and saying that he'll work with him on those issues on which they agree (aid to Africa is one, I think), Obama takes a step toward not making fundies feel totally marginalized. As long as they feel as though they have some sort of place (however minor) there likely won't be the same kind of impetus to organize that eventually led to 8 years of Shrub.
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth
And lo, did John Hammond fall down the hill, where he was eaten by compys. Amen.
Yet another thing that's not in the Bible because the Bible was written by people who knew nothing about the Earth before man rose to prominance.
35 million years ago we had a primitive rodent or twelve, one of which is our ancestor. Dinosaurs had been around for millions of years already. We are not time-peers
Eventually, I came to the conclusion, through my study of the Bible and science, that the two positions of evolution and creation just could not fit together.
So very very very close...
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth, an earth that was filled with vegetation and beauty...man and dinosaurs lived at the same time...From the very beginning of creation, God gave man dominion over all that was made, even over the dinosaurs.
This is contrary to when fundies and any follower of any version of the bible said there was no such things as dinosaurs, that fossilized dinosaur bones and remains were fake.
Now that they have been proven real, you once again re-write what you had been vehemently denying was proven true, and trying to spin that, totally ignoring that Dinos were last on earth 250 millions years ago and man has been around a scant 1.5 millions. The only reason there were human footprints next to fossilized dino prints: check out what sedimentary deposits are, okthanxbai!
"There are some real problems with the idea that God created through evolution... My prayer is that you will have this same experience! "
Oh I have, just not the way you mean.
The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth
Actually, that's Hanna Barbara's picture. The Bible is strangely silent on the topic of dinosaurs. This surprises me, as it mentions tons of other animals (unicorns, insects with four legs, etc).
Some of these creatures were as big as whales. Surely someone would have mentioned them, if only as something to be very, very afraid of.
But no. Little lizards is all you get.
Not very observant, God's chosen people, were they? Noah especially but then he didn't have room for them, did he?
I wonder what branch of science Warren studied.
I know, I'll look it up.
fergus
Uh, yeah.
According to Wiki (unchallenged), "Warren earned his Bachelor of Arts degree from California Baptist University in Riverside, his Master of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (1979) in Fort Worth, Texas, and his Doctor of Ministry degree from Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, California."
How did he fit in all that science learnin'?
fergus
Rick Warren getting attacked by a cougar in the forest:
"Oh GAWD! Stop Beast! I have DOMINION over you!"
"AUGHAUGUAOHGODWHY?AUghggh *gurgle*"
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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