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I will allow that he certainly did not deserve to die, but how many here know that [Matthew] Sheppard grabbed one of those guys on the a$$, and that he had tried to kiss the other?... Those rough-necks were so insulted that they led him on a bit, got him out of the place and into a venue that made him a bit more vulnerable, and proceeded to give perky Matty boy a little lesson in Wyoming manners... Was it bad? Yes, it really was. But they didn't want to kill him, and it wasn't like they chose him -- HE'D chosen his lifestyle and he'd chosen THEM. The Sheppard story is a masterpiece of leftist propaganda.

Eric, VoyForums 22 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Tell you what, Eric, I hope you run into a couple of Thelma and Louse clones who take offense when you get fresh and decide to teach you some manners in exactly the same way.

10/18/2007 12:30:31 PM

Giga Guess

BULLSHIT! They singled Matthew out, they led him on, and whether they intended to or not, they beat him to death. So fuck you. Fuck you and your "blame the victim" mentality.

Oh, and if hitting on someone who is not receptive to your advances is grounds for a violent lesson in manners, then by your logic, bars should be slaughterhouses.

10/18/2007 12:48:43 PM

Jake Steel

I'm guessing this guy gets beat up by women alot.

10/18/2007 1:34:41 PM

dworkin

Remind me never to go to Wyoming.

10/18/2007 2:19:45 PM



I will allow that he certainly did not deserve to die

That's good, it shows that you have at least some shred of humanity in you.

but how many here know that [Matthew] Sheppard grabbed one of those guys on the a$$, and that he had tried to kiss the other?...

Even if that were the case, those guys could have just told him no, shoved him away if he didn't get the message, and called the police if he tried to stalk them. Of course, I seriously doubt he was that type of person. Besides, they singled him out and pretended to be gay just so that they could beat him up later. What part of that don't you understand?

Those rough-necks were so insulted that they led him on a bit, got him out of the place and into a venue that made him a bit more vulnerable, and proceeded to give perky Matty boy a little lesson in Wyoming manners

MANNERS?! MANNERS?! You call beating someone to a pulp, tying him to a fence, and leaving him there to die "manners?!" How dare you make his death seem so frivolous, what the heck is wrong with you?!

Was it bad? Yes, it really was.

But...

But they didn't want to kill him, and it wasn't like they chose him

Of course they didn't. And I'm the Queen of Sheba.

HE'D chosen his lifestyle and he'd chosen THEM. The Sheppard story is a masterpiece of leftist propaganda

Correction: THEY'D chosen what path to take and they chose HIM. Matthew's murder was a hate crime, plain and simple. Nothing changes that, not even your filthy, belittling lies.

10/18/2007 5:12:40 PM

Tempus

Let's talk Appropriate vs. Inappropriate Response:

Situation: Someone unwanted grabs your ass without your leave.

Response #1: You tell him to leave you alone, and punch him if he doesn't. He leaves.

Verdict: That is acceptable.

Response #2: You and your friend lead him on until you can get him away from a public area, beat him until bones break, and then deliberately leave him on a fence in the dark to die of a combination of the injuries you've inflicted, shock and cold.

Verdict: Congratulations, you're cold cold-blooded murderers. Fry in hell.

10/18/2007 7:47:31 PM

cyborgtroy

What the hell does "want" have to do with manslaughter?

like, I don't want to kill you either, so that means I can get away with it? WTF?

10/19/2007 11:35:31 AM

Marlowe

Note to fundie Shephard revisionists: If you say he didn't deserve it, and then claim he brought it on himself... yeah, that's saying he deserved it. Fuck off either way.

2/28/2008 4:56:23 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

But they didn't want to kill him

Evidently it's perfectly ok to beat someone within an inch of their life, just so long as they don't actually die.

2/28/2008 5:15:05 PM

David B.

Yeah, and I heard about one guy who was always hanging with the same group of guys, forever trying to spread his 'lifestyle', ticked off the authorities whenever he could and ignored all sorts of local customs; hah, did he ever get what was coming to him! They nailed that f**ker to a goddamn tree!

Now what was his name? Jake... Jayce... Jason... Jesse?

2/28/2008 5:25:02 PM

nemesis

Sounds like a guy who would defend cross burning and lynching

2/28/2008 5:31:07 PM

PO

Translation: "He didn't deserve to die, but, he was asking for it!"

3/26/2010 7:56:51 PM

darkevilme.

STOP BEING A PSYCHOPATHIC SOCIOPATHIC FREAK ON MY INTERNETS!

3/26/2010 8:42:05 PM

Swede

So that's what I should have done, all those times some guy grabbed my ass and tried to hit on me!
I bet that I could gather together a few million women who have had their asses grabbed by some undesirable guy. That poor bloke won't even be pulp when we're finished with him.

Or, I could tell him to mind his hands and leave me alone. As a last resort, I could call the police.

Those guys chose to be insulted, just as much as he chose his lifestyle.

3/28/2010 7:42:53 AM

Canadiest

"led him on a bit, got him out of the place"

Premeditated, they call that in law

"But they didn't want to kill him,"

How hard is it not to kill someone? Did they just really, really wanna hurt him? Was he just a tease and refused their advances and that gave them the right to abuse him?

The Sheppard Story is of legal prosecution of murder.

3/28/2010 7:48:57 AM

Elia

So when you hit on a lady who happens to be lesbian, and she doesn't like it, does she get to take a knife to your neck? Yeah, that's what I thought.

3/28/2010 7:49:15 AM

Allegory for Jesus

So...these guys led Sheppard on in order to get revenge beatings out of him in private? That..that's even worse than a bunch of thugs thinking to beat the crap out of a random gay guy. It's premeditated and coldly manipulative on top of being irrationally violent.

Shame on you for being too stupid and/or heartless to realize that your version is also horrific.

10/11/2010 4:34:57 PM

Lilith

Please drown in a vat of hydrochloric acid.

10/11/2010 7:51:05 PM

Ri Jayden

Weren't THEY in a MotherF*cking GAY BAR?!?!? And weren't THEY egging HIM on?!? What the FUCK did they EXPECT him to do? I hate ANYONE who has the gall and balls to DARE stand up for those hateful bastards. Just die in a fire already!

10/11/2010 8:58:55 PM

Ling

Ask any woman anywhere, and she will say that at least one guy has grabbed her ass and/or tried to kiss her. It's just part of life. You either tell him politely that you are not interested, smack his hand away, or run for your life, depending on how aggressive the unwanted attention is.

10/12/2010 12:05:14 AM

PiGirl13

So what you're saying is, these people committed brutal, premeditated murder... but since he grabbed one of their "a$$es", it's okay?

Slimebags like you shouldn't be allowed on the Internet.

2/21/2011 5:15:42 PM

Crimson Lizard

Fine. The next man who touches me without my permission will be beaten to a pulp. I have a premade excuse, thanks to Eric here! If it's okay for them, it's okay for me! (Then again, I'm a lowly female with no rights, so it probably isn't. Damn fundie double standards.)

8/13/2012 9:45:07 AM
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