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it is not natural to be homosexual, homosexuality serves no perpose other than pleasure. It is a disease, a homosexuals? brain is different than a normal persons brain.

vicious12394, Youtube 61 Comments [1/10/2009 3:12:16 PM]
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Doctor Whom

it is not natural to be homosexual, homosexuality serves no perpose other than pleasure.

Even if we completely assumed away kin selection, that would still be a non sequitur. We do lots of things just for pleasure, but not even a modern-day Lady Whiteadder would denounce them as unnatural.

It is a disease, a homosexuals? brain is different than a normal persons brain.

But let a researcher hypothesize any brain differences, and the fundies start screaming, "No, no, it's just a choice!"

1/10/2009 3:15:23 PM

John

"It is not natural to be NASCAR fan. Watching cars going around an oval for hours serves no purpose other than pleasure. It is a disease. A NASCAR fan's brain is different than a normal person's brain."

Same stupid logic.

1/10/2009 3:33:24 PM



"homosexuality serves no perpose other than pleasure"

Are you saying you derive pleasure from thinking about guys?

It's okay, you can come out of the closet...

1/10/2009 3:36:03 PM

Ronni Bom

it is not natural to be religious, religion serves no pUrpose other than displeasure. It is a disease, a religious brain is different TO a normal persons brain.

FIXED!

1/10/2009 3:37:30 PM

GreenEyedLilo

That's about as fundie as you can get right there. Fundies fear pleasure. They don't understand that it *is* a purpose, and an important one as well.

@ John: We really do think different!

1/10/2009 3:40:07 PM



What's the obsession with "Purpose" anyway?

But if you want to really go down that road, doesn't pleasure have a purpose in keeping the brain working smoothly?

1/10/2009 3:41:56 PM

Illuminatalie

it is not natural to be homosexual
It is not natural to put question marks randomly in the middle of sentences. It is natural to be blind, left handed, or red haired. If you want to argue that being blind is a sign that something didn't develop the way it usually does, you are correct (and you could indeed make that case for left handedness too - not sure about red hair though). If you want to argue that blind people should be treated as subhumans because of something they can't control, please drink crazy glue until something happens.

homosexuality serves no perpose other than pleasure
Neither does 99% of your day to day activities.

It is a disease, a homosexuals? brain is different than a normal persons brain.
You are correct that the vast majority of science points to brain differences, but wrong that it is suspected to be caused by a disease. More likely, organs that are not functioning 100% properly in the mother's body during the time of pregnancy, do not deliver the correct chemicals at the right time, with the result of the body being coded one way and the brain coded another. If there was an evolutionary advantage to this, you would see a gradual shift towards homosexuality being the norm, I suppose. If there was a massive disadvantage to it, you would see less homosexuality occurring over time. Since there seems to be neither, it stays at the % that it is.

1/10/2009 3:44:01 PM

HoJuSimpson

it is not natural to be homosexual,

Define natural, then look up how many species homosexuality has been observed in.

homosexuality serves no perpose other than pleasure.

Kind of like the clit and male g-spot, correct? Well, shucks, thanks anyway, god!

It is a disease, a homosexuals?

How cute, s/he figured out how to use Babel Fish. Also, can you define what a disease is and then tell me how a guy who likes cock or a girl who likes vag is diseased? I can't wait to hear your op on people who like both.

brain is different than a normal persons brain.

There are studies done showing how a gay man's brain is structured similar to that of a heterosexual woman. I fail to see how this makes one more normal than the other. I didn't watch 2girls1cup but does that mean the people who participate in it are not normal? Well, I don't really care, but it's not a disease...health risks, sure, but whatever makes ya happy.

1/10/2009 3:47:31 PM

Rat of Steel

(GreenEyedLilo)
"That's about as fundie as you can get right there. Fundies fear pleasure. They don't understand that it *is* a purpose, and an important one as well."


Couldn't have said it better myself. That was truly beautiful.
*huggles you*

I'm wondering something about NASCAR racing, though: why is it apparently so difficult for course creators to remember that a car's steering wheel turns in two directions?
(Also, I still call "dibs" on Danica Patrick!)

(Illuminatalie)
"If there was an evolutionary advantage to this, you would see a gradual shift towards homosexuality being the norm, I suppose."


Actually, there is. When a species starts doing well for itself, and shows no sign of not doing well for itself in the short term ("short term" being the next century or two), there tend to be significantly more members of that species who turn out gay. It's another way of keeping population in check, since in a purely biological context, homosexuals are less likely to want to reproduce.

1/10/2009 3:58:48 PM

Headache

Ok, here is my version of this rant:

It is not natural to eat chocolate, chocolate serves no nutritional purpose other than pleasure. It is a disease, a chocolate eaters brain is different than a normal persons brain.

Much better!

1/10/2009 4:01:24 PM

spaceamoeba

So what is a normal person's brain like?

1/10/2009 4:15:40 PM



/brain is different than a normal persons brain./

Yeah, just like a black person's brain is different from a white person's brain, right? Like all those stupid, racist "scientific" experiments that supposedly "revealed" that a white person's brain was superior to that of a black person? That wasn't true, then, and your nonsensical statement is not true now.

1/10/2009 4:18:33 PM

Morrigan

What is with the question mark????

Why do they fear pleasure so much?????????

1/10/2009 4:27:07 PM

Thammuz

"it is not natural to be religious, religiousness serves no perpose other than filling in for ignorance and fear. It is a disease, a religous' brain is different than a normal person's brain."

Fix'd both grammar and phrase

1/10/2009 4:30:53 PM

SpankyZeHam

The contradiction is beautiful...

1/10/2009 4:45:57 PM

LOLWUT

Its purpose? Whatever are you talking about? Even if it had a purpose and even if it was pure pleasure, SO WHAT!?

1/10/2009 4:59:13 PM

randomcollision

How is pleasure supposed to be a disease?

1/10/2009 5:24:18 PM

Drax

Huge contradiction, dude. You say homosexuality is not natural, then you go on to say homosexuals have 'different' brains. Assuming this is true, how can these 'different' brains be anything other than natural? Are you suggesting that some man-made factor causes people to be born with 'unnatural' 'gay brains'?

1/10/2009 5:28:15 PM

Riin-thrall

Pleasure is a purpose.

Ergo, failure.

1/10/2009 5:58:48 PM

Mudak

It's lines like this that make me want to offer up a not unreasonable challenge...

They must: sit or stand naked and blindfolded.

I will then send in ten people to give some modicum of sexual or sensual pleasure to them. These ten people will do whatever they can using non-gender specific body parts and otherwise seek to mask their genders (trimmed fingernails, hair pulled back, no speaking, piercings removed, etc....) Of these ten people, there will be at least one man and at least one woman.

If the fundies can correctly identify the gender of at least eight of the ten people I send in, then I'll accept their assertion that it's not natural. Otherwise, they should just shut the fuck up.

1/10/2009 6:01:27 PM

aaa

My mind dislikes bad english.

1/10/2009 6:10:52 PM

fundiesRtehlulz

it is not natural to be christian, christianity serves no perpose other than to control uneducated, weak-minded people. It is a disease, a christians brain is different than a normal persons brain.

Fixed

1/10/2009 6:30:56 PM

Papabear

It is not natural to have one's wisdom teeth removed or to wear shoes.

Why is pleasure not a worthy purpose?

All credible medical organizations agree that homosexuality is NOT a disease.

The brains of homosexuals may indeed be slightly different from heterosexuals. So what? Cat lovers probably have slightly different brains from dog lovers. Different is not necessarily bad.

1/10/2009 6:39:46 PM

Ken

Making babies isn't the main purpose for heterosexual sex anymore. Who cares why people have sex or who they have sex with as long as it's consensual?

1/10/2009 6:41:57 PM

Detrs

We could care for all the wanted kids you breeders pump out then abandon.

Of course, by preventing us from doing much of anything, that just makes it easier for you to point that out.

1/10/2009 6:55:45 PM
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