"Fossils are fickle they sing any song you want to hear" one evolutionist said. The so called evidence for ape to man evolution is terrible. You can tell by exhibit A, the Lucy fassil. The Australo pithicus Aferensus has a tree climbing pelvis and meat hooks hands for trees. Its an extinct ape not man's ancenstor but fossils will sing any song you want to hear.
Evolution is false. It it bad science. Nopthing about the Lucy fossil shows an ape to man tranition and yet illustrators change the feet and hands and eyes to misrepresent Lucy to children in museums and textbooks.
It is not the evidence that cries evolution is true but a preference of the heart to not believe God. The evidence aint there
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"Evolution is false. It it bad science."
Hmmm....*takes out Fundie to English Dictionary* Let's see, let's see.....Ah here we go! It translates to, "Lalalalalalala, I can't here you now, lalalalalalala, Jesus is Lord and my daddy weren't no monkey, lalalalala!"
How about instead of attacking the theory of evolution and just claiming it to be false, you actually provide evidence for your claims. Oh what's that, creatinists don't have any. That's what I thought. These attacks are nothing more than a smoke screen to deflect questions away from your point of view but anyone with half a brain can see right through it.
Far clearer proof is coming nowadays from genetics, rather than fossils. And the genetic evidence and the fossils mostly agree with each other. Certainly creationists can keep doggedly insisting that every fossil found is either a modern ape or a modern human, but they rather blow their credibility when one says it's an ape and the other says it's a human. Cronin, a legitimate scientist, listed various features of the hominid fossil ER1470 that were human-like, and others that were ape-like. Creationist Gish selectively quoted only Cronin's ape list and said it was an ape. Creationist Lubenow quoted the human features and said it's a human. But both insist it's not an intermediate form!
@Eden: "Never trust someone who is not even able to write "Australophit ecus afarensis" correctly ;)"
Oh, the yummy, yummy irony.
The good kind, though. ;)
I'm afraid that you must be referred to as a moronic liar. Because all the information you need to understand evolution and biology is easily and readily available to anyone in the world, even people living in the most primitive and isolated parts of the third world.
Intellectual laziness is the only excuse for not even trying. Even if you've only got a cursory grasp of grammar and the understanding of words, it should still be possible to work out the scientific processes being used to tell us the story of the real world.
'Quoth the Raven, "'Tiddlywinks for me', said Irene Turner-Cartwright the incontinent daw. 'I'll have a round of buttered toast and a quick game of hopscotch', piped Millie Bailey Carpenter the disenchanted bat'. Oblivious to them all as they squakwed and rawked in the forest clearing was that the dreaming city had awakened. Pederagal the demon-girl had glanced with her far-peering third-eye the hopeless manoeuvres of that hoping, ragged, dunce (cont. page 94)
"'Fossils are fickle they sing any song you want to hear' one evolutionist said."
Uh, specifically which "evolutionist" saud that? If it was Stephen Jay Gould, I might be interested. If it was BillyBob 'round the corner from you, I am not impressed.
Hmm, and you back up this great proclamation with something more than made up crap and wishful thinking?
"It it bad science."
Says s/he who wouldn't know actual science if it stood up and introduced itself.
A mighty bold statement considering you're a believer in a God for whom there is NO EVIDENCES whatsoever.
The Australo pithicus Aferensus has a tree climbing pelvis and meat hooks hands for trees.
A. Afarensis (e.g., "Lucy") certainly wasn't human, and neither paleontologists nor creationists claim otherwise. It was more human-like from the waist down and more ape-like above. Lucy probably could climb trees better than whirlingmerc, but she didn't have an ape's pelvis:
"The climbing ability and locomotor efficiency of australopithecine species, particularly Australopithecus afarensis, remain controversial despite decades of research. ... However, despite evidence for variation in the pattern of bipedal hip use among australopithecines, three-dimensional simulations of posture and maximum abduction indicate that AL 288-1 ["Lucy"] had an adducted hip and a limited range of abduction, similar to modern humans and less than chimpanzees and some monkeys . Limited hip abduction probably reflects a diminished ability to climb and cross substrate gaps using the hindlimb ..." (Journal of human evolution - 1996)
"It is almost certain that A. afarensis individuals would have been more capable climbers than are most modern humans. They were smaller and relatively stronger. They retained primitive features, such as slightly longer arms, hands, and feet, that would have made them slightly more competent in the trees than are modern humans, but still considerably less so than any ape ". (Carol Ward, YEARBOOK OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY - 2002)
I always wonder why fundies find the idea of evolution so offensive, almost as if being related to an ape in the distant past makes their life somehow worth less. Is being in opposition to the purported "god's word" the only reason for this offense, or is it simply that they cannot accept being related to an entity that they believe is somehow inferior?
Sure, apes may not have the brain power that we do, but they sure do get along better with each other and abstain from threats of violence and nuclear warfare.
So Lucy could climb trees, but the trees were her hands, which were meat hooks?
Please never go anywhere near children.
"...a tree climbing pelvis and meat hooks hands for trees."
That is, by far, the funniest thing I've ever seen one of them type. Ever.
I first read this as 'The Australo pithicus Aferensus is a tree climbing pelvis and hooks meat hands for trees', and was extremely confused. Then I went back and read it, and the feeling didn't go away.
Interestingly, a google search of that quote revealed one source: YOU. Are you saying you're secretly an evolutionist?
"Its an extinct ape..."
Right...should have left it there. A. Afarensis is an extinct ape, and H. Sapiens is an extant ape. I still can't tell if the rest of your statement is a deliberate falsehood, or mental conditioning kicking in. I guess it really doesn't make any difference.
Still waiting a valid argument that they aren't related...
I said, a valid argument, not "because I said so."
Oh, that's all you got?
After some googling, I located the (apparent) source of whirlingmerc's "fickle" quote:
An article called "Argument over a woman" in the 1990 issue of Discover magazine (not a peer-reviewed journal). The Discover archives do not extend to 1990, so it's impossible to determine the context.
I believe the referenced author of the quote is James Shreeve, a science writer who has written about Lucy and the Human Genome Project (among other things). I kind of doubt he's an IDer.
Evolution is extremely true.
Either it is "true" or your god is not perfect and your faith is wrong anyways.
See if God was perfect then he would not create species that fail. Which they do regularly when they go extinct.
Evolution is the survival of all species. If it is not upto scratch it perishes. So what's it to be, is your god evil and so should be destroyed or do you leave our evolution alone and go back to eating the food and the medicines that we churn out to keep your fundie ass alive?
Australopithecus is remarkable since the foramen magnum is under the skull meaning it walked upright. Its a chimapnzee like creature that walks on two feet. Unlike chimpanzees.
Humans are apes.
Next idiot.
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