[Does God listen when catholics pray?]
The reason I ask this is that a co-worker's father has just recently been diagnosed with cancer (they are very catholic). The doctor's didn't know how bad it was until further testing could be done. Just today this co-worker said that the doctors say that the prognosis looks good. When she was telling us she said "thank you everyone for all of your prayers". She was telling this to me and two other girls. The two other girls are Catholic, I am the only saved Christian.
So I feel like the only prayer that counted was mine and that God doesn't even listen to their prayers. Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?
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You're an arrogant fuckwit. Catholics believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and are thus, by definition, Christians.
Their prayers and yours are listened to just as much as the prayers of Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Sikhs, et al.
That is not at all.
"...Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?"
No, of course not.
You don't sound a "bit" arrogant. You sound extremely, gut-wrenchingly, vomit-inducing, hell-worthy arrogant.
am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?
Rhetorical question?
But even this kind of eye-popping, mind-splinterin' arrogance is quite at home at RR. They're mostly assuring her that it isn't arrogance, it's just tough love.
Your arrogance is staggering. Somebody was diagnosed with cancer and you're thinking you're the reason the prognosis looks good? You people make me sick.
at least somebody on that thread called pucci on the arrogance.
So what you are really saying is: "I think I single handedly saved some girl's father from death without lifting a finger because even though all theists pretty much use the same means of talking to God, I think I'm the only one that has a direct line to his cellphone because I can just tell the almighty creator of the universe likes me more. His own body and the doctors had nothing to do with it, it was ALL ME!!! (oh and god too. *cough*) Is that arrogant?"
"So I feel like..."
Your feelings are irrelevant to the issue at hand. The words you were looking for are, "I think..."
"Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?"
Yes. Yes you are incredibly arrogant to think that.
"So I feel like the only prayer that counted was mine and that God doesn't even listen to their prayers. Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that? "
You are arrogant. Islam is the real religion. God listens to Osama bin Ladens prayers but not yours.
"I am the only saved Christian.
So I feel like the only prayer that counted was mine and that God doesn't even listen to their prayers"
Wow, its the mindset of every single member on RR condensed to 2 sentences.
You sound like a complete ass, and I would heavily wager that the majority of your friends, family, and nieghbors, think so too.
A bit arrogant? Nobody wants to listen to you speak, let alone a (fictional) supreme being.
I used to be Catholic. I found out that I get better results when I stopped praying.
You know what prayer your god answered? holy shit. I'm astounded, not only do you see yourself better than other people, believing in the same god as you, but you know what your god, the omnipotent being, the lord of the lords, the most intelligent of all, is thinking? And how he reacts to situation?
No that is not arrogant, at all..
You are definitely being arrogant. Don't worry, though. God doesn't listen to your prayers, either, given his lack of existence.
Actually, God only listens to the prayers of one person per day. You hit him up about the cancer on your one lucky day in this life.
Today is the turn of Emil B. Jebus, resident of Rat's Ass, N.M. Unfortunately for you, Emil is praying for you to be hit by a bus.
Meanwhile, across town, the other two were saying, "So we feel like the only prayers that counted were ours and that God doesn't even listen to that Protestant girl's prayer."
Christopher Lee : There should be a limit on RR quotes (say 1 a day) so that we have to work a little harder...
But they produce thousands of them each day! What is a poor soul to do? <insert random creepy RR emoticon>
A subtely hidden "no true scotsman" fallacy. Delusions of grandeur, inferiority comnplex. And yes, bitch, you are arrogant, for two reasons. There is not god at all who answers prayers, and you somehow think that your version of the same sky fairy only listens to you, why? Because you're the bigger asshole, probably.
Arrogant was not the first word that came to mind. "Insane" and "shitbag" were first.
And no. No one who could think such a thing is either "saved" or "Christian". You lose. Go directly to Hell and do not collect $200.
Way past arrogant. No provocation at all, and you STILL went about looking down on others. Just sheer idiocy.
The reality is, the guy's cancer was just naturally a treatable one, not by the virtue of ANYBODY's talking to the ceiling.
Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?
Egotistical fuckwit, aren't you? That's called PRIDE.
And later from Pucci in the same thread we have this classic:
In this instance, (if I recall from my catholic days) I think that the catholic is not coming to prayer asking for salvation. In thier minds they think that they are already saved because:
A. they were baptised in the catholic church as infants
B. they belong to the catholic church which in thier minds is the only way.
No, by all means, if that's what your faith makes you believe then fair enough. On the whole, it's not hurting others to believe that. Unless, the occasion doesn't warrant any insufferable behaviour from those with a loutish disposition, if that is the case, then shut your cake-hole.
Whether or not it has any bearing on your stupidity is another matter altogether.
Well, Pucci, since you seem to have the ear of the Almighty, maybe you could get him to do something about the shit that's happening in the Middle-East... Oh, wait... Then you'd have nothing to masturbate to
I am the only saved Christian.
So I feel like the only prayer that counted was mine and that God doesn't even listen to their prayers.
- You are an arrogant Pharisee. Read in the Gospel what Jesus says about your type! [Hint: I thank the Lord that I am not like the rest of men...]
Could that be so or am I sounding a bit arrogant to even think that?
You need to ask? You are arrogant. Incredibly so.
To think that you are so much better that the creator of the universe will listen to you, and not to your fellow human beings is one of the most arrogant things a person can believe.
How dare you pray for an unsaved Catholic, the spawn of Satan? Why would God listen to your prayers for such a lost soul?
It's more likely that this unfortunate man just got better.
As for you, Pucci, you have no hope of redemption, because you amount to everything that Jesus, assuming he ever existed, would have despised. That you cannot see this amounts to a form of insanity that is way, way beyond arrogance.
I diagnose a very severe form of narcissistic personality disorder. I doubt that there is an asylum in the world strong enough to hold your craziness in check. But please seek help just in case.
fergus
Pucci?
As in Enrico, maybe?
Hmmm... maybe God listened to all the prayers.
Maybe God only listened to your prayer.
Maybe God only listened to the other twos' prayers.
Or, maybe the Doctors just did their job.
And caught it early enough.
Your juju is the mightiest, it was indeed your spells that changed the type of cancer the child had.
If only you were even more saved, your prayers would have cured her without any need for medical treatment.
Not only is that arrogant, but it reeks of one of your deadly sins: Pride!
Burn in hell, you hypocritical fundie! Muhahahahaha!
I think the best responses from the RR crowd are the ones that point out, essentially, "uuumm.... if God doesn't hear the prayers of the unsaved, then no one could ever be saved."
Soooooomeone's going to hell.
Along with me, the Gays, Jews, native peoples, pagans, heathens, Japanese(god hates shellfish), agnostics, gamblers, etc.
Damn. If he gets in he'll ruin the party. Someone kick his ass off to heaven to be bored with all the other fuddie-duddies for eternity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a Native Hawaiian Luau to attend with a hot Wiccan chick in Hell. So long, suckers!
No, you're not sounding a bit arrogant, stupid. You're sounding incredibly, unbelievably arrogant and prideful.
Pride is one of the deadly sins, as I'm sure you know. Have fun in Hell, asshole!
If that were so, God didn't have much to do before the 16th century, when the first protestants left Catholicism, and no-one, I repeat; NO-ONE, in the Bible was a "saved Christian"; they were either Jews, Orthodox Christians, Catholic Christians or infidels.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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