John J. Ray #fundie

John J. Ray #fundie pcwatch.blogspot.com

Consider two "jokes" below:

Q. "Why are Leftists always standing up for blacks and homosexuals?

A. Because for all three groups their only God is their penis"

Pretty offensive, right? So consider this one:

Q. "Why are evangelical Christians like the Taliban?

A. They are both religious fundamentalists"

The latter "joke" is not a joke at all, of course. It is a comparison routinely touted by Leftists. Both "jokes" are greatly offensive and unfair to the parties targeted but one gets a pass without question while the other would bring great wrath on the head of anyone uttering it. Why? Because political correctness is in fact just Leftist bigotry. Bigotry is unfairly favouring one or more groups of people over others -- usually justified as "truth".

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old comment by Illuminatalie

Because political correctness is in fact just Leftist bigotry

Meaningless and unrelated gobbledygook. If you are offended by being compared with muslim fundamentalists, go have a cry, then come back and try to find out why. I fully admit, for the most part, Christian Fundamentalists in America do not CURRENTLY treat their objects of hatred as violently as (1) Christian fundamentalists in South America and (2) Muslim / Hindu fundamentalists in ME. What do you want, a cookie? Anyone can read history and see what was done barely 50 years ago! By your own group's frequent admissions, you would LIKE to bring this back. Please don't tell me all the Christian fundamentalists calling for violence aren't "real fundamentalists". What most of the sane people see, is that an attitude of radical intolerance, INEVITABLY leads to the horrors we see in extremist states. If you're going to argue anything, argue that it doesn't (I'm not saying you'll be successful, but at least it would make more sense).

And your first joke is interesting in that it shows a lot more of your psychology and perceptions of others than you realize.

old comment by Ronni Bom

Well at least I can see my penis. Yeah, can't say the same about your god, can you?
And yes you are both religious fundamentalist!

This is a joke:

There was this couple that had been married for 20 years. Every time they made love the husband always insisted on shutting off the light. Well, after 20 years the wife felt this was ridiculous. She figured she would break him out of this crazy habit. So one night, while they were in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned on the lights. She looked down and saw her husband was holding a battery-operated 'pleasure device'... a vibrator! Soft, wonderful and larger than a real one.

She went completely ballistic. "You impotent bastard," She screamed at him, "how could you be lying to me all of these years? You had better explain yourself quick smart!" The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly: "I'll explain the toy... you explain the fucking kids!"

old comment by a mind far far away

I don't get it. I though jokes were supposed to make people laugh. The first one is offensive, and second one is just reality. Fundies sure do have a fucked up sense of humor. And for those posting about the fundamentalist/evangelical split:

Evangelicals and fundamentalists were originally the same movement, and were in response to the perceived liberalism that was taking the church in the wake of the Enlightenment. The E's and F's eventually split over the doctrine of "separation". F's thought that xtians should separate themselves from the world, while E's thought that xtians should engage society. Today, things like xtian music, video games, movies and TV shows, books, clothes, etc., are all part of the E movement. E's were originally just as conservative as F's, but today, we see some E's taking a "left-of-center" stance, and it has now become thus: fundamentalist (conservative); evangelicals (moderate), and progressives (liberal). Evangelicalism changes so much that it's sometimes hard to keep up with it.

old comment by Kremlin KOA

@Szaleniec: Interesting theory

Consider the nature of a pure democracy; A demographic that has 75% of the population can wield absolute power upon any matter they agree on.

As such, many of the core sections of America's Legal system would be significantly different, If christians were all one mololithic group, and if America was a pure democracy.

So either
A: Christians are not a monolithic group.
B: The percentage of people who are christians is significantly smaller than the pie chart suggests. or
C: Christians wield less political power than their population would suggest.

I honestly suspect all three, and am very grateful for the fact. My own status as Apostate from christianity means if the fundies did wield that kind of political power, I would be heavily persecuted.

In addition I am of the opinion that American Society is following a pattern where christian thought is becooming less acceptable, and less politically influential. I am also somewhat grateful for this.

As a third point, I recognize the strategic validity of vilifying and ridiculing the idea that Christians are being disempowered and marginalised. Taking the idea seriously may require reversing it.

I am not convinced that the population of this forum are thinking strategically, I believe they are merely being intellectually dishonest.

EDIT: emocracy to democracy (funniest typo evar ;-p)

old comment by szaleniec

You make some good points. I'm still not convinced about C, and I suspect A is the most significant of the factors. There's a clear majority of Christians who do respect the separation of church and state, don't use the Bible as a justification for racism, sexism and homophobia, and wouldn't be arrogant enough to think their own personal morality should apply to the whole of society beyond things that any reasonable person should agree on. (Things in the "treat others as you would hope they would treat you" category, an idea by no means exclusive to Christianity - something similar is found in other major religions and in the morality of most non-religious people.) Reasonable Christian philosophy is still respected in the population at large but stuff like "God commands us to put gays to death" decreasingly so, and I share your gratefulness at this fact.

As to the question of power, I suspect it'll be a long time before anyone who isn't at least a professed Christian gets elected President. Then again, people (myself included) did say the same about the idea of a black President so I accept the idea that I might be proven wrong there someday.

old comment by Encolpius

"Q. "Why are Leftists always standing up for blacks and homosexuals?

A. Because for all three groups their only God is their penis"

I feel a song coming on...

"At the sight of penis,
Ladies' knees shall bow,
And their tongues caress him,
Shall fellate him now,
Tis my penis' pleasure,
Women call him 'Lord',
And from the beginning,
Suck my mighty sword.

Humbled for a season,
By a dose of clap,
But now the lips of women,
Play upon his glans,
Rigidly he bears it,
Spotless till at last,
Discharges he victorious,
His sticky white blast.

He rears up triumphant,
In a woman's sight,
Screws all ranks of creatures,
With all his great might,
To the throne of Godhood,
Fumbling at her breast,
I fill her with his glory,
Then succumb to rest.

Suck him, sisters, suck him,
Swallow, spit or choke,
If you will not suck him,
Let me have a poke,;
Penis is my master,
I will call him 'Lord',
Ever to be worshipped,
And by women adored.

In your cunt enthrone him,
There let him subdue,
All your raging passions,
Let him come in you,
Praise him as your master,
Eat him for an hour,
Let Lord Penis fill you,
With his strength and power.

Sister, my Lord Penis,
Is stiff once again,
Let me in your bedroom,
In your bed to reign,
Let the prophylactic,
Rest upon his brow,
Let your clit caress him,
King of Glory now.

Glory to Lord Penis,
He is the prince of flesh,
In a world of lusting,
He is King of sex,
Praise my great Lord penis,
Praise to my great horn,
Let us screw together,
From now until dawn!"

John J. Ray #fundie pcwatch.blogspot.com

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