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Quote# 56607

Consider two "jokes" below:

Q. "Why are Leftists always standing up for blacks and homosexuals?

A. Because for all three groups their only God is their penis"

Pretty offensive, right? So consider this one:

Q. "Why are evangelical Christians like the Taliban?

A. They are both religious fundamentalists"

The latter "joke" is not a joke at all, of course. It is a comparison routinely touted by Leftists. Both "jokes" are greatly offensive and unfair to the parties targeted but one gets a pass without question while the other would bring great wrath on the head of anyone uttering it. Why? Because political correctness is in fact just Leftist bigotry. Bigotry is unfairly favouring one or more groups of people over others -- usually justified as "truth".

John J. Ray, Political Correctness Watch 66 Comments [1/16/2009 2:54:52 PM]
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#854102
The Outsider

Fundamentalism -

1 a. often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b: the beliefs of this movement c: adherence to such beliefs

2: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles <Islamic fundamentalism> <political fundamentalism>

1/16/2009 2:57:23 PM

#854103
Paschal Wagner

This would be the bit where you refute the comparison. Y'know, with facts.

1/16/2009 2:57:47 PM

#854105


evangelicals are fundamentalists and referred to themselves as fundamentalists until fundamentalists in the middle east started blowing themselves up...

1/16/2009 2:58:31 PM

#854107
Barikada

Huh, maybe it's because both actually do qualify as fundamentalist groups?

How is it unfair?

1/16/2009 2:58:32 PM

#854117
aaa

Groan... Do you know what the word "Fundamentalism" means?

1/16/2009 3:07:07 PM

#854120
afacelessatheist

You might wanna look up the meaning of the word fundamentalist before you bitch and moan next time. Maybe then you won't look like such a giant douche.

1/16/2009 3:08:32 PM

#854122
Illuminatalie

Because political correctness is in fact just Leftist bigotry

Meaningless and unrelated gobbledygook. If you are offended by being compared with muslim fundamentalists, go have a cry, then come back and try to find out why. I fully admit, for the most part, Christian Fundamentalists in America do not CURRENTLY treat their objects of hatred as violently as (1) Christian fundamentalists in South America and (2) Muslim / Hindu fundamentalists in ME. What do you want, a cookie? Anyone can read history and see what was done barely 50 years ago! By your own group's frequent admissions, you would LIKE to bring this back. Please don't tell me all the Christian fundamentalists calling for violence aren't "real fundamentalists". What most of the sane people see, is that an attitude of radical intolerance, INEVITABLY leads to the horrors we see in extremist states. If you're going to argue anything, argue that it doesn't (I'm not saying you'll be successful, but at least it would make more sense).

And your first joke is interesting in that it shows a lot more of your psychology and perceptions of others than you realize.

1/16/2009 3:11:58 PM

#854123
That Goggles Kid

Jokes: n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.

By definition, that wasn't a joke. It was a...

Debacle: n.
A total, often ludicrous failure.

1/16/2009 3:12:06 PM

#854125
David B.

Evangelicals are not always fundamentalists, so this would be an unfair comment on those who are not.

Perhaps some Taliban are not fundamentalist Muslims either, in which case they too are getting the broad end of the shaft.

Though somehow I doubt that JJ Ray, or anyone else at PCW, is in the least bit worried about offence caused to any non-fundamentalist Taliban. Bigotry, to them, is any intolerance directed towards themselves, not the intolerance they direct towards others.

1/16/2009 3:13:29 PM

#854129


What did you do, drag out your twenty-five year old copy of 100 Worst Jokes Ever?

1/16/2009 3:13:54 PM

#854134
Tolpuddle Martyr

Cue the Python jokes: "Help, help I'm being oppressed!"

1/16/2009 3:19:00 PM

#854136
Lucilius

We're not joking. We mean it: Given similar social and political conditions – specifically, as Karen Armstrong says, denying religious extremists access to political participation in periods of rapid social change – you'd act just alike.

1/16/2009 3:19:44 PM

#854157
Eden

Well, you are fundamentalists according to the definition of the word fundamentalists.

You will find only few people, however, who claim that, aside from being religious fundamentalists, you are like the taliban ;)

1/16/2009 3:31:51 PM

#854167
Mister Spak

The second one isn't offensive, it's true and you feel offended.

1/16/2009 3:39:27 PM

#854169
DJ Shire

wheres the pie chart?

1/16/2009 3:40:06 PM

#854182
breakerslion

I see... so you want to be a religious fundamentalist, but you don't want to be identified as a religious fundamentalist. Perhaps you would prefer some other PC euphemism, like "Diversity Challenged", or "Bronze Age Chauvinist" or "Thinking Adverse"?

1/16/2009 3:50:53 PM

#854188
HoJuSimpson









I'm done :P

1/16/2009 3:53:05 PM

#854195
redfergus

The only difference between the Taliban and Christian fundies is that the Taliban are willing to put their guns where their mouths are. Christian fundies, on the other hand, are hot on shouting but put in hardly any action. I don't know which is worst.

Oh yes: you could never call the Taliban boring.

As for Ray's penis joke, it is incredibly offensive: it is an offence against humour. Only a fundie could make a witless remark like that and refer to it as a joke.

fergus

1/16/2009 3:56:55 PM

#854216
QT

Well, the first joke isn't funny, and the second joke is accurate. The Taliban might be worse in scale and action than you're typical Christian Dominionist, but they're both psycho fundies.

1/16/2009 4:11:00 PM

#854219
Dyz

The only joke in this post is the guy that wrote it.

1/16/2009 4:12:51 PM

#854226
60613

"Bigotry is unfairly favouring one or more groups of people over others -- usually justified as "truth"."

How sweet to see you define yourself so clearly.

1/16/2009 4:18:47 PM

#854227
Geno

Hey! Hey! I call foul! You're changing the definition of 'fundamentalist', 'bigotry', AND 'joke'! If you can change the definition of any word you please, then let us change 'marriage'!! Hypocrite!!

1/16/2009 4:19:09 PM

#854238
Bunny Boy

...I don't get it.

Where's the funny?

1/16/2009 4:25:08 PM

#854244
Asuka

I thought jokes were supposed to make you laugh?

The first one makes no sense, and the second one is true.

1/16/2009 4:29:44 PM

#854249
Ronni Bom

Well at least I can see my penis. Yeah, can't say the same about your god, can you?
And yes you are both religious fundamentalist!

This is a joke:

There was this couple that had been married for 20 years. Every time they made love the husband always insisted on shutting off the light. Well, after 20 years the wife felt this was ridiculous. She figured she would break him out of this crazy habit. So one night, while they were in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned on the lights. She looked down and saw her husband was holding a battery-operated 'pleasure device'... a vibrator! Soft, wonderful and larger than a real one.

She went completely ballistic. "You impotent bastard," She screamed at him, "how could you be lying to me all of these years? You had better explain yourself quick smart!" The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly: "I'll explain the toy... you explain the fucking kids!"

1/16/2009 4:32:14 PM
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