(On Christians and debating)
I tried debating a raging atheist over evolution and creation, and it ultimately caused me to seriously question my faith for several years!!! satan can really fool us with logical sounding arguments and has dragged more than one solid Christian into doubt over such issues!
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"I tried debating a raging atheist"
Ah, a RAGING atheist. They are, indeed, a rare specimen.
"and it ultimately caused me to seriously question my faith for several years!!!"
And then I wandered right back into my old, ignorant ways.
"satan can really fool us with logical sounding arguments"
That's because he's smarter than Jesus...and he created fossils and carbon/radiometric dating.
So you failed because there's no such thing as satan.
Here's a list of interesting facts to help you:-
There is no god and it definitely does not exist.
The bible contains errors and is inconsistent.
There is no heaven and there is no hell.
There are no angels, demons and devils or satan.
The bible is immoral and unethical.
The bible is no use as a guide to anything.
The bible is a XXX tome.
Religions are vast edifices of monstrous evil.
Prayers and praying are completely ineffectual.
Religions contain massive reserves of stupidity.
Religions are huge repositories of cant and dogma.
Religion and hypocrisy are forever hopelessly entwined.
Fundamental Christianity is not a lover of humanity and is inhumane.
Christian fundamentalists display a remarkable degree of hatred and bigotry that they are unconcerned about trying to hide.
Christian fundamentalists have no tolerance of others outside of their cults.
Christian fundamentalists have neither liking, nor, indeed, a penchant, for logic, common-sense or factual evidence.
Love ya, Pule.
So close to curing yourself of Christianity, and yet such a fucking FAILURE.
And WT flying F is a "shosty"?
it ultimately caused me to seriously question my faith for several years!
If talking snakes and donkeys, women made out of ribs, staffs turning into serpents, water turning into wine and God demanding that people kill His son to "reward" Him for lifting the curse He put on them because their 60-times great grandparents ate His magic fruit doesn't cause someone to question their faith, I'm sure a few fossils aren't going to do it.
Raging atheist? Is there such an animal, I have yet to meet one.
As for "solid" christians (the "solid" meaning brain frozen sold) none so deaf that don't want to hear, none so blind that don't want to see, none so ignorant that don't want to think.
“satan can really fool us with logical sounding arguments”
My theory is that it’s not Satan, but guys like Comfort, Strobel, Hovind.
Creationists hear all these arguments that start with the assumption of Creation being true, and validate it, and result with Creation being true. There’s really nothing there. Some word sleight-of-hand, or poor science, or piss-poor math. So you don’t really retain the argument, you just remember that a science-sounding guy once told you what you wanted to be true.
So when you confidently throw this bullshit at a competent opponent, they can point out errors or holes in the argument.
And that’s assuming you actually remember it.
Sometimes y’all don’t, and you make shit up. For example, in a discussion of just how did Noah and his posse survive after the flood, and not eat all the animals they brought, one Christain argued that they took 14 cattle underway. So after they landed, they could drink the milk of those 14 cows…
And though I’m an atheist, I was able to point out that you can only milk half of the cattle. Also, the 7 pair included animals that were sacrificed to God at the end of the Flood. So not even 7 cows for milking. These are just facts of the story that I knew better than he did.
So, yeah, you’re ill-equipped and you try to whip a little convincing truthiness upon people who know the story better than you do. No wonder you doubt.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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