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(Though abstinence is the best prevention, it's still a good idea to take the HPV vaccine due to the chance of rape.)

Do the math on your scenario and I'm confident you'll find that risk to be less than the risk of being struck and killed by lightning.

(Actually, there's a a 0.6% chance of a woman being exposed to an STD through no fault of their own versus 0.016% of people being struck by lightning.)

Your data are from a one-sided source that combines rape with attempted rape, a misleading statistical trick (which is it, rape or not?). The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd.
The vaccine protects against only a tiny percentage of STDs, and you haven't factored that in either. When you do an objective analysis, you'll see that the risk of being struck by lightning is higher, which is hardly a risk anyone incurs costs and risks adverse effects to avoid.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 41 Comments [1/24/2009 7:53:35 PM]
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Malkavian Jeff

Why does conservapedia exist again?

1/24/2009 7:55:11 PM

JonathanE

Still, most tall churches have lightning rods...

1/24/2009 7:59:26 PM

a mind far far away

The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd

Yes, it is absurd. The number is probably a little bit higher.

1/24/2009 8:01:12 PM

Man Called True

ATTENTION ANDY:

Men CAN be raped. By either men or women. Assholes like you are why it's given so little attention.

Go jump in a woodchipper and do the gene pool a favor.

1/24/2009 8:08:20 PM

fundiesRtehlulz

The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd.

Everyone in the prison system would like a word with you.

1/24/2009 8:12:21 PM

aaa

WMDkitty is going to be pissed. *jumps to a foxhole*

1/24/2009 8:16:07 PM

Headache

I guess Conservapedia adheres to the old Chinese proverb saying rape is impossible as a woman with her skirts hiked up runs faster than a man with his pants down.

1/24/2009 8:16:18 PM

LOLWUT

The HPV vaccine will be part of the public vaccination programme here in Sweden, and offered to teenage girls. This will save lives. I guess that's really scary for you god-lovers.

1/24/2009 8:16:52 PM



Go get yourself reamed...outdoors, during a lightning storm.

1/24/2009 8:22:18 PM

Barikada

"Your data are from a one-sided source that combines rape with attempted rape, a misleading statistical trick (which is it, rape or not?)."

Wait.

What?

1/24/2009 8:24:40 PM



...being protected against an STD doesn't mean you're going to go out and automatically start having unprotected sex all willy nilly. Besides, you can catch it other ways than just sex, as with a LOT of other STDs.

1/24/2009 8:40:44 PM

GreenEyedLilo

It does my heart good to see that a Conservapedia contributor (or, quite possibly, yet another *former* contributor) has a lick of sense.

@ JonathanE: Most churches have fire extinguishers and fire insurance, too.

1/24/2009 8:46:01 PM

Osiris

Still, you are denying a girl a cure for cancer.

1/24/2009 8:46:23 PM

Old Viking

Andy Schlafly: Couldn't tell objective analysis from a jar of pickled beets.

1/24/2009 8:59:16 PM

Sanity

Your data are from a one-sided source that combines rape with attempted rape

How does this matter in case of STDs? I got mono during a 4 month period in which I was quite certainly not kissed. :(

The same source claims that 3% of men are raped
I can't see the source because I refuse to go to CP, but I'm quite sure the aschfly didn't pute up a rafuting source.

The vaccine protects against only a tiny percentage of STDs, and you haven't factored that in either.
Well, that's actually a good point. Can pigs fly yet?

But the ashfly forgets one tiny detail. Here's a similar position:

Adding airbags to cars only prevents a tiny fraction of deaths. Not driving at all prevents all possible car-related injuries, therefor we shouldn't install airbags in cars.

1/24/2009 9:39:45 PM

Sayna

*laughs* Wrong on so many levels.

1/24/2009 9:51:16 PM

Jax

Andy, Regardless of how rare it is it happens so by denying a vaccine you're condemning rape victims to die from cancer through no fault of their own. How very Christian.

1/24/2009 9:53:21 PM

Zoo

Why is combining two similar categories in a statistical analysis misleading, since they must have made it clear they were doing so for you to pick it out?

917677 has a good point with: "Besides, you can catch it other ways than just sex, as with a LOT of other STDs." (see the person against hep B vaccine for her baby a few days ago)

It's kind of unrelated to rape, but it's possible that a girl can marry someone who is not a virgin and already has the virus, and therefore she gets it despite having "waited". (To which you would of course reply that she shouldn't marry him because he wouldn't wait, which I think is a stupid reason not to marry someone unless it's somehow a symptom of a character flaw you can't live with.)

1/24/2009 9:54:14 PM

atrasicarius

Andy, I hope you go to prison, get raped, and catch AIDS, just to show how fucking stupid that comment was.

1/24/2009 10:16:54 PM

wackadoodle

FUNDIE DEBATE TACTIC #21

SOURCES

If your opponent points out why your fucking stupid, demand they provide a source. When they provides a source claim its biased, one-sided or just absurd. Do this to any source that doesnt agree with you. Ignore your opponents silly complaints about how your sources have "no credentials whatsoever" or "admits it will never acknowledge any opposing evidence".

1/24/2009 10:22:03 PM

Fanatic-Templar

The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd.

Yes it is absurd. It's probably greatly underreported.

By the way, i assume your objective and unbiased source of statistics is your anus?

1/24/2009 10:28:59 PM



I wouldn't get that vaccine if I were young enough, and my daughter won't be getting it while she's under my roof. I don't believe it's been tested long enough. We have no idea what the long term side effects are. And the fact that they tried to make it mandatory in Texas SHOULD make everyone suspicious.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with god or religion.

1/24/2009 11:12:25 PM

ozznova

God, Andy Schlafly is such a fucking moron.

1/24/2009 11:15:00 PM

The Watcher

"The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd."

Well, I guess based on Andy's uncited assertion, we should certainly accept that it is, in fact, absurd.

"The vaccine protects against only a tiny percentage of STDs, and you haven't factored that in either."

I'm not sure this is true, but let's assume it is. Still, so what? Wouldn't you rather protect against a tiny percentage of STDs rather than none?

1/24/2009 11:19:59 PM

Thejebusfire

[The same source claims that 3% of men are raped, which is absurd. ]

Since most rapes go unreported, that number would probably be a bit higher.


1/24/2009 11:32:06 PM
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