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What's all this talk about the "facts" of macroevolution? It's a historical science. It took place in the past. It's more forensic than empirical. We look to the fossil record for evidence, not facts, and all evidence is open to interpretation. It should be debated in a court room, not a science lab

John Chaikowsky, Timesonline 41 Comments [1/24/2009 7:30:05 AM]
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#865273
wackadoodle

DOVER TRIAL MOTRHERFUCKER! You can tell they've done no research whatsoever when they think their being clever with "evolution would never hold up in a trial"

1/24/2009 7:31:09 AM
#865278
Clown

It took place in the past and it takes place right now. Natural laws, anyone? You know: non-discriminating, unchangable, sometimes destructive laws?

1/24/2009 7:37:36 AM
#865282
Dark_Lord_Prime

Yada, yada...DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

Blah, blah...MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU KNOW IT!?

That is all.


1/24/2009 7:42:57 AM
#865286
Joe-Bob

So from this set of six sentences I can see John believes the following.

1) Forensic work is not empirical
2) Evidence =/= facts
3) The proper place for all debate is a court room.

I call fail on all levels.

1/24/2009 7:54:18 AM
#865289
Nowonmai

Sure, as soon as laws are discussed in a science lab, you nitwit.

1/24/2009 8:24:42 AM
#865308
Jadehawk

you don't know what a "fact" is, do you....

1/24/2009 9:06:23 AM
#865309
Nowhereman

Just die in a fire already -_-

1/24/2009 9:06:26 AM
#865326
Rat of Steel

Mentioning the word "macroevolution" = automatic 5, automatic fail.

That is all.

1/24/2009 9:41:18 AM
#865327
Affine Connection

Another F in biology.

1/24/2009 9:48:00 AM
#865346
Thammuz

You fail at forensics, biology and life. Enjoy yourself.

1/24/2009 10:37:13 AM
#865349
Pule Thamex

Have you voted yet on the FSTDT pole?

1/24/2009 10:44:22 AM
#865367
aaa

We already did that, back in 2005. I must request you to step outside.

1/24/2009 11:20:14 AM
#865379
El Zorro

Fail on so many levels.

1/24/2009 11:46:22 AM
#865391
Beeblebrox

It should be debated in a court room...

It was, and your side lost. The court determined that Intelligent Design is just the latest cover name for Creationism. Since Creationism is out and out religious in nature it is not legal to teach it in public schools. Maybe next time your team should take more care in re-editing old Creationist text books.

1/24/2009 12:10:33 PM
#865392
a mind far far away

Waiter, there's some shit in my word salad.

1/24/2009 12:13:27 PM
#865410
Panz

"evidence, not facts"

Facts are evidence you twit

1/24/2009 12:51:18 PM
#865411
anevilmeme

1 Evolution took place in the past, is taking place in the present and will continue to take place in the future.

2 The fossil record is evidence AND fact. Nor is the fossil record our only evidence for evolution.

3 Dover Trial, 'nuff said.

1/24/2009 12:55:28 PM
#865421
The Jamo

Since when is a biological process a legal matter? Does that mean that the side with the more expensive lawyer is correct?

1/24/2009 1:08:19 PM
#865431
Doctor Whom

Evolution took place and is taking place. The facts say so.

Also, do we get to debate the Genesis creation stories (and the plural is not a typo) in the science lab?

1/24/2009 1:21:29 PM
#865437
breakerslion

"...all evidence is open to interpretation."

And all delusional interpretations that deny the evidence at hand are open to ridicule. See how that works?

1/24/2009 1:34:01 PM
#865447
Canadiest

Odd that you think the argument should be moved to the courts as they also require evidence.

1/24/2009 2:00:28 PM
#865458
Zoo

Evidence is open to interpretation, but you have to have the correct assumptions to begin with. That's the difference between you and a scientist. Believe it or not, a scientist is trained to consider what assumptions s/he's making and test them if at all possible. You are not. You are given a set of assumptions and told they're the inerrant word of God, even if these assumptions aren't even in the book.

Why don't we start debating religion in the courtroom too?

1/24/2009 2:31:01 PM
#865463
Space Helicopter

Does this man realize forensic scientific evidence is admissable in court?

And that evolution has been tried in court and won?

1/24/2009 2:48:10 PM
#865481
colonel catastrophe

Yes, because lawyers are the best source for information on the fossil record.

1/24/2009 3:28:12 PM
#865487
Mister Spak

"It should be debated in a court room, not a science lab "

We'll debate science in a courtroom if you'll debate your creation myth in a lab.

1/24/2009 3:36:21 PM
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