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Kay, it is never right to murder. Your scenario is situational ethics. Women have more options these days: places to go and people who will adopt that baby.

Most "scenarios" presented are tear-jerking sob stories that represent the minority of abortion cases. The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake.

Bakershalfdozen, Online Baptist 27 Comments [1/24/2009 11:23:56 PM]
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Efrain

Yes convenience for what could be a baby eventually. It would have to look forward to either:
1.) A mother who isn't ready to raise a child.
2.) Shitty foster housing.

1/24/2009 11:29:10 PM

Dale

As if there weren't thousands of children already in need of a home....

1/24/2009 11:36:41 PM

Old Viking

They employ violence, hyperbole, the deliberate misuse of language, and the constant demonizing of those who disagree with them. And this one's tender feelings are hurt by what she deems "sob stories."

1/24/2009 11:44:44 PM

WMDKitty

Liar.

1/24/2009 11:45:30 PM

myheadhurts

citation needed

1/25/2009 12:26:47 AM

aaa

Tell me something new.

1/25/2009 12:27:37 AM

Illuminatalie

Kay, it is never right to murder.
Except when it is, then it's death to the ragheads.

The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake.
The majority of fundies who post on the web do so for ego's sake.

1/25/2009 12:28:49 AM

Starlit

"Kay, it is never right to murder"

Unless it is in a holy battle, like the crusades and witch burning times or war on Iraq or anti-faggotry instances in America today, not to mention the few hundred thousand deaths mentioned in your own bible.

Not defending murder here at all. Just don't try and make a point through hypocrisy.

1/25/2009 12:35:25 AM

fundiesRtehlulz

You fundies are so ass backwards on this issue. The adoption system is already so overcrowded with children it's not even funny. And you want to flood it with even more kids? The country is overpopulated, economy is shit, people are losing jobs left and right, fewer people are gonna want to adopt any time soon. And lets not forget that you assholes voted to keep homosexuals from adopting, thus keeping EVEN MORE kids in the shitty system. You fail epically.

1/25/2009 12:45:37 AM

atrasicarius

Kay, it is never right to murder. Your scenario is situational ethics.

I think you should probably get your story straight with this guy:

"Is it absolutely immoral to hack a six month old baby to death with a sword?" (referring to genocides in the Bible")

why? what's wrong with that?

Who says it's wrong?

1/25/2009 12:59:37 AM

a mind far far away

Kay, it is never right to murder

Says a baptist, who would probably kill a methodist given half the chance, for being too moderate and ritualistic.

Your scenario is situational ethics

Since when do fundies believe in situational ethics? I thought all you fuckers believed in an absolute moral code. Or do you employ it when it is convenient for you?

Most "scenarios" presented are tear-jerking sob stories

Fundy xtians have no right to demean emotionalism when they oftentimes resort to it to try and convert people to their cult.

that represent the minority of abortion cases. The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake

I must admit ignorance and say that I don't know any numbers on the issue, but I'm willing to bet that it's the other way around.

1/25/2009 1:10:04 AM

Pule Thamex

There are no reliable guides to morals and ethics in common circulation. So, one has to think for oneself and obey the laws of the land, where possible.

1/25/2009 2:11:04 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

Wait one second, you believe that ethics is based off of a book that tells us that a talking serpent screwed everything up, and you have to appease the walking on water magic man to make things better..

... and you have the nerve to say she is following situational ethics?!?!

1/25/2009 4:20:53 AM

Sayna

"Women have more options these days: places to go and people who will adopt that baby."

Nope. "Give birth" and "give birth" are actually the same option. Adoption ends unwanted parenthood, but without safe, legal abortion women are still FORCED to go through with pregnancy.

Additionally, any time I see a fundy pull the "convenience" bullshit I link them to this lovely little list of all the possibly physical "inconveniences" that can and do occur during pregnancy:
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-frame.html#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm

1/25/2009 7:05:27 AM

Damen

Women have more options these days: places to go and people who will adopt that baby.

Yeah, just look at all those empty orphanages.

The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake.

First off:



Secondly, and more importantly:


1/25/2009 8:47:19 AM

Lulzmonger

Stop lying.

1/25/2009 8:53:47 AM

ausador

Yet these same people invariably (99%) support the death penalty and see no contradiction in that whatsoever.

Sigh...

1/25/2009 8:56:39 AM

John-in_Oz

It's amazing how many people are against 'situational ethics' when they don't even know what the phrase refers to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_ethics


1/25/2009 9:47:09 AM

solomongrundy

Starlit wrote
not to mention the few hundred thousand deaths mentioned in your own bible.
You do Jehovah a disservice: the headcount is 2,301,417 and that's just the ones enumerated, not including the Flood, the Death of the Firstborn etc.

1/25/2009 10:10:38 AM

Princess Rot

"Women have more options these days: places to go and people who will adopt that baby."

But only if it's adorable, healthy, newborn, and above all; WHITE.

"The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake."

Or, they do it because they know what's best for them and aren't that hot on being pressured to sacrifice everything for the unborrrn cheeldrun while being treated like an idiot.

1/25/2009 1:40:48 PM

Ken

"Most "scenarios" presented are tear-jerking sob stories"

Why did you kill me, Mawmeeeee? When Gawd made me speshull for youuuuuuuuuuuu?

1/25/2009 4:21:30 PM

Lulzmonger

Also, I just noticed. Isn't this a typical case of ''Tyranny of majority'' ?

1/25/2009 4:34:13 PM



An undeveloped fetus/clump of cells =/= baby. Hence =/= murder.

1/25/2009 4:34:52 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

Kay, it is never right to murder.

Which makes the vast majority of your Bible immoral.

1/25/2009 7:05:12 PM

doomie 22

Kay, it is never right to murder

Except when the person is a heathen.

Your scenario is situational ethics.

Do you even know what that is?

Women have more options these days: places to go and people who will adopt that baby.

Which is why the adoption rate is so high. In fact, your dumb ass is actually keeping the adoption rate down by barring gays from adopting.

Most "scenarios" presented are tear-jerking sob stories that represent the minority of abortion cases.

"It hurt when you killed me, mommy. But it's ok because I'm in the clouds with Jeezus now and he says you're a very bad mommy and you'll burn."

The majority of women who abort do so for convenience's sake.

Yes, the convenience of not going through the extremely painful and possibly harmful process of child birth and the convenience of not putting another kid in the shitty foster care system so they can grow up wondering why their real mom hated them so much that she wanted to give them away.

1/25/2009 8:24:03 PM
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