Other than some very basic info, I really have no clue why they are fighting in Israel. And it's not really something I'm interested in looking at too deep. My "orders" are to be with Israel, no matter what. And in some cases (for me) too much info is a bad thing. I'm very good at looking at things from both sides, I'd like to be better at looking at things from God's side.
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"My "orders" are to be with Israel, no matter what"
Then you're guilty of treason and it's prison for you, Cellophanebrain.
This is why religion needs to go. To misquote: "Without religion, smart people would do smart things and dumb people would do dumb things. But for smart people to do dumb things, that takes religion."
I've heard of 'my country, right or wrong', but 'some other country right or wrong' is a new one on me. No, wait ... isn't that what Kim Philby used to say?
@Psittacosis: Kim Philby, ftw. Or ftl, really, depending on whose side you're on.
Anyway, points for Kim Philby reference, since I never thought I'd see his name on FSTDT.
Also? This guy is a wack-attack waiting to happen. He sounds like a friend of mine, except my friend is a) not a fundie and b) at least somewhat sane. Oh, and c) well-informed on purpose.
I just listen to my pastors who have wildly misinterepted four passages in the bible to create the entire pre-tribulation rapture fantasy I live by. They say we have to support Israel because it has to exist for the prophecies to be fulfilled. Therefore I don't care what Israel does or who started the most recent round of bloodshed.
The only thing death in the holy land means to me is that maybe jesus might be making his 2000 year overdue re-appearence soon. I only live for that, hoping that I will die and be removed from this evil earth every second of my life.
You people who believe we should attempt to preserve the earth from pollution and over population are just wasteing your time. Those concerns are petty and un-biblicle...because jesus is coming back any day now...just as he has been since he promised his followers to return before they died more than 2000 years ago.
I don't understand why you fail to believe in my god, the bible is perfect and is the word of God after all. I don't need to listen to anything else because I already know the truth.
I'm following my orders faithfully as interpreted by my pastor. The rest of you are going to burn in a lake of molten sulpher for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever...you get the point. But you have to realize that he is only going to punish you to burn forever because HE LOVES YOU!
This is why I hate fundies...No, you're not good at seeing things from both sides, and no, too much info is never a bad thing. If you had some info, you'd know you're worshiping a book with no internal consistency and that everything you're denying is actually correct. In most cases, anyway.
"I'm very good at looking at things from both sides..."
How can you possibly look at things from both sides when, by your own admission, you know nothing about the issues involved, and don't even want to know about them? You are an utter moron.
Translation
"I am really frightened that if I actually make the effort to learn about what is actually going on,it may just start me thinking about real life and the simple fact that all this Rapture stuff is just a load of crap.
So as a result I prefer to avoid reality as much as possible, in order that I can feel so special about myself by thinking that I will be saved while others are damned for all eternity "
You DO realise that they're Jewish in Israel, right? I'm sure you called them "Christ Killers" at some stage, undoubtedly? I never understood the problem with that, since God gave his son to be crucified weren't the Jews simply part of his plan? And if so, wouldn't they have no choice but to hand him over to the Romans, who ACTUALLY KILLED HIM? Also, whose "orders" are you following exactly? God's? If "God" is speaking to you directly then I sincerely suggest that you seek professional help as it's a classic sign of schizophrenia, a debilitating but treatable condition. Go on now, it's for your own good...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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