[About Obama saying that Homosexuality is a gift from god]
Well, then all diseases are a "gift" from God....cancer, diabetes, genetic defects. I true homosexual was born with an abnormal endocrine system....a person with epilepsy can be born with a genetic abnormality for that disease. These are in no way "gifts" from God.
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If the Bible is to be believed, then God causes such things so that He can glorify Himself, so yes, they are gifts from the Omnibenevolent One.
Well, then all diseases are a "gift" from God....cancer, diabetes, genetic defects.
Well, when it serves your recruitment purposes, they usually are...God made your wife die a horrible, painful death of cancer so you could become closer to him, for example...?
I true homosexual was born with an abnormal endocrine system....a person with epilepsy can be born with a genetic abnormality for that disease.
Yes, and Epilepsy directly harms the person. The only people homosexuality directly harms are people like you who can't keep their eye off the keyhole.
These are in no way "gifts" from God.
If they are, they're on par with those ghastly sweaters you get from that aunt, year after year...
Seems like whoever said that about gay being a gift has a healthier attitude about life than you do, Miriam. They can deal with what life hands them instead of whining and looking for the divine helicopter to rescue them.
And, of course, any gay or bisexual person who also has real diseases and disorders can tell you that there is a huge difference.
um, I don't know who submitted this, but it was about OPRAH saying homosexuality is a gift from God. If you are going to post, at least do it correctly.
Wait, wait, wait... It wasn't Obama. It was Oprah. lol Fundies dislike them both, but they're quite different people.
And Oprah didn't even say this, either. Rev. Ed Bacon did.
a person with epilepsy can be born with a genetic abnormality for that disease. These are in no way "gifts" from God.
If the genetic abnormality that triggers epilepsy is not a gift, then is it a punishment? If so, what for? Is it a punishment for future sins, or is it a punishment for sins of past generations? Neither is morally palatable.
It was Oprah, not Obama who said that, but anyway...
If you're so convinced that homosexuality is a disease, why do you insist that gays will be sent to hell? Are you saying that people with epilepsy will also be going to hell?
Obama neve said that, Miriam, but you folks have never let an absence of facts stop you. Why start now, eh?
I true homosexual
*snicker* ;)
Guess he didn't create everything, then. Unless of course you mean these things were not gifts, but punishments from god. I wonder what behaviour he's trying to punish? Whatever it is, it can't be homosexuality.
WOW! A Nobel Prize in Medicine or Physiology for this one... I mean, researchers have been searching for a neuro-endocrine basis for homosexuality for a long time now, but it's all been a waste of time because Miriam33 knows all the answers. Of course, she got all her knowledge from a bible-thumping, brimstone-preaching, wife-bashing, white-supremacist Pastor in Deadshit, Alabama...
I'm actually having a bit of trouble grappling with this one. Once we accept homosexuality is genetic, we'd have to assume it's a genetic mutation since passing down the "homosexuality gene" would be highly unlikely - homosexuals would die off. Although nowadays we have surrogate mothers and sperm banks, the "homosexuality gene" would have disappeared over time over millions of years of development (also there's the whole "primal instinct to ensure species survival" thing). Therefore, if homosexuality is genetic and exists now then it would necessarily be a genetic mutation. The problem is that in such a situation what sort of status do we give it? Would it be a disease, a minor mutation, or something else entirely?
Also, if homosexuality is a genetic mutation, we'd know what gets mutated. Suppose we don't find a homosexuality gene, then the only option left would be to default to the assumption that homosexuality is based on choice since it's not genetic.
This question has been bothering me for a while. I'm not saying homosexuality is wrong, I just really want to know if there's some answer to this question. I'm just really interested in this, and if I'm missing something in this or my reasoning is flawed, point it out so I can finally be more at ease about the issue.
Sorry, but as the godfather to an epileptic godson (who, btw, is the coolest kid in the world, ever) I have to ask: What exactly is your problem with epilepsy and who are you to judge how god created "his" humans and for what reason?
Confused?
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