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Jesus does exist in history. He is not fictional. Ask a historist, if he says No. Sue him for failing history.
[1/30/2009 12:02:10 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Appeal to authority
(And then reject the authority if he/she doesn't back you up)
1/30/2009 12:02:59 AM
Gott Mit Uns
How's that for history?
1/30/2009 12:04:25 AM
Can I sue you for failing English? And Thinking?
1/30/2009 12:04:35 AM
Sorry, can't find any historist. Plenty of historians, though. You should ask them...
1/30/2009 12:06:26 AM
Well, you can sue historians as much as you want, but it won´t alter the fact that there is not a single historical document that mentions Jesus during his lifetime.
Even the gospels were all written after the death of Jesus and none of them by people who knew Jesus personally ;)
1/30/2009 12:06:29 AM
History is a religion too now?
1/30/2009 12:07:01 AM
Historists believe that history has, in fact, occured and are the arch-enemies of the Last Thrursdayians.
1/30/2009 12:16:44 AM
Lawyers don't work that way.
1/30/2009 12:45:41 AM
I've looked in the Yellow Pages to no avail.
1/30/2009 12:50:08 AM
I don't deny Jesus existed, but I doubt he was more than a man with good ideas, which fucksticks like you twist to your own agenda.
1/30/2009 12:53:03 AM
I rated this a '5' for sheer idiocy.
1/30/2009 1:01:20 AM
I often see the claim of historical evidence, from fundies, moderate Christians and atheists alike.
I'm not categorically denying that such evidence exist, but I have yet to see any. Is there anyone here who knows if there is any documentation outside of the Bible?
Any record of his execution? Any first-hand reviews of his sermons? Anything like that?
I'm curious, because I've really heard people claim both that such things exist and that they don't so many times. But I haven't seen any evidence for the existence yet.
1/30/2009 1:09:56 AM
@Zabimaru -- That's because, outside of the Bible, there *isn't* any evidence of Jesus' existence. (The Josephus thing is a proven forgery, BTW.)
1/30/2009 1:11:37 AM
WTF is a Historist?
And, Ichabencow had better hope that people cannot be sued for failure or s/he is going to have a lot of court time.
1/30/2009 1:22:46 AM
Sue him for failing history.
No, sue him for failing
Let's at least keep our nonsense consistent.
1/30/2009 1:28:08 AM
is this a fucking joke?
1/30/2009 1:29:22 AM
Er, yeah I'll ask a "historist" and perhaps maybe a "sciencist" as well....
1/30/2009 1:35:50 AM
OK, but can I sue Christians who say Darwin converted on his deathbed too? I'll call my lawist to find out if I can. Hope I get a good judgist.
1/30/2009 1:48:18 AM
oh yay, let's sue people who talk about shit they don't understand! we can milk the creobots dry! *evil grin*
1/30/2009 2:11:11 AM
Ask a historist, if he says No. Sue him for failing history.
Your appeal to authority has been denied!
1/30/2009 2:22:58 AM
You know, I would ask a historist if I could find one.
1/30/2009 7:06:41 AM
But when I asked a historian, he said Jesus was fictional. It is well known that the character of Jesus was originally a butler in one of Agatha Christie's very early novels.
1/30/2009 9:56:40 AM
He must be a scientician.
1/30/2009 10:37:27 AM
The Lazy One
Sorry, couldn't find a historist.
1/30/2009 11:02:55 AM
Ridiculously phrased, but not fundy. Anyone who says that an historical Jesus never existed just isn't well-versed in history. There's just as much evidence that he existed as their is for Socrates existing.
Whether he danced on water and got everyone drunk with it is another issue entirely...
1/30/2009 7:42:54 PM