Forensics became increasingly less useful the older a specimin is. The point of forensics is to evaluate how something died. From a dead fossilized skeleton you might be able to construct a reasonable hypothesis as to how it died, but perhaps not even that because if it is really mangled then for all you know it could have been smashed post mortem or it may have fallen apart as it decayed. You cannot tell who it's parents were, or what it's children were like, and you probably cannot even verify that it had children. Forensics is N/A to evolutionism.
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I think a more relevant part of that thread may be the part where he said this?
"Actually it was mostly the plant matter buried by the flood that caused the oil and coal, and also, I think that before the flood people were very advanced. They may have even had airplanes, a space program, and performed brain surgery. Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions.
As far as the death of most dinos goes. I think it was caused by:
1. The end of hyberbaric conditions/insufficient oxygen for many of the larger dinos
Eiiiiiiither way. Fucking idiot.
jmsnooks - You need to watch
http://www.history.com/minisites/jurassic-fight-club
It's awesome! They go over everything with a microscope almost and then try to figure out what it means.
It is amazing how much these guys can extrapolate from the information that are preserved in the fossil record, by comparing it to predator behaviour that is observable now.
You ever heard of La Brea tar pits? - amazing forensics go on there. Tar is such a good preservation medium.
How about this amazing stuff
http://geology.about.com/od/geophysics/a/aaoklo.htm
None of this amazing stuff is in the Bible - it's all too much to contain in one book! Even a really really big one.
Try it - read a different book - look round the internet! - stop fapping in your wee world that god made - explore the stuff god had no idea about!
@ Joe-Bob
Forensics became increasingly less useful the older a specimin is
The point of forensics is to evaluate how something died
Forensics is N/A to evolutionism.
"A body farm is a research facility where human decomposition after death can be scientifically studied in a variety of settings. The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information (such as the timing and circumstances of death) from human remains. Body farm research is particularly important within forensic anthropology and related disciplines, and has applications in the fields of law enforcement, medical examination and crime scene investigation. There are currently three such facilities in the United States with the farm at Texas State University being the largest.
The full entry can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Farm
or just google it. idiot.
Well, as others have pointed out, the greater majority of the definitions for "forensics" have to do with crimes. Your final statement is thus true in most cases, except in the solving of ancient crimes.
Even ignoring that, there are ways to know whether something was smashed or folded after it died, perhaps due to rock movement or layer build up. Fossils will most likely also retain evidence of trauma if it reached to the tissue that was fossilized (usu. bone). It's also possible to tell if something was falling apart while it was being buried/fossilized, if it was another animal's meal, etc.
I don't know enough about forensics to argue about this. Instead, I'm going to tear your grammar skills to shreds. :0)
Forensics became increasingly less useful the older a specimin is.
1) You are speaking in the present tense. It should be "Forensics becomes less useful etc.
2) Specimen , not specimin
Oddly enough, these two are the only errors I found. I hereby conclude them reasonable typos (though you should learn to spell check), and rescind my accusation of grammatical incompetence. Those who know forensics better than I do may feel free to tear him to shreds on that issue instead.
The point of forensics is to evaluate how something died.
Spoken like the uninformed churl your post makes you out to be. There is a forensics branch to practically every profession, including forensic accounting (It's used to track down accounting hanky-panky).
Looking at evidence and coming to a conclusion= good
Starting at a conclusion and grasping at starws to support it= bad
Creationism is BS. Deal with it.
"You cannot tell who [the fossilized skeleton's] parents were, or what it's children were like, and you probably cannot even verify that it had children." You CAN , however, tell that it existed, and that its skeleton had pretty much the same shape as the fossilized bones, and when it died (to within a few thousand years).
This by itself is enough to tell that extinct animal species walked the Earth millions of years ago, and that modern animals pretty much didn't exist back then.
Okay, let's break this down.
1) What a dinosaur's parents were or whether it had children is irrelevant; it's the dinosaur itself that is important.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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