25 species of dinosaurs have been collected in Alasks, not fossilized nor mineralized but indeed frozen. The specimens have been and continue to be tested in an Ohio University. Some of the tests include radio carbon (performed by several of the worlds leading radiometric labs). The tests have found abundant amounts of C14 which date the specimens at no more 30,000 years. Readers some of you should examine the RATE dating studies where various samples of COAL and diamonds were also tested for radio active carbon. ALL SAMPLES yielded considerable C14 which is a timeclock showing they cannot be over 20,000 years old.
Hundreds of scientists in all disciplines do not believe in OLD EARTH millions of years and believe the Genesis 6 day account of the bible. One such scientist is Raymond Damadian, the inventor of the MRI. Other scientists such as PHD antropoligist KURT WISE studied under one of the most famous evolutionary preachers, the late Steven J. Gould and Kurt is a young earth creationist. I can go on and on.
Readers, do not believe the lies that no scientist with PHD degrees are not young earth creationists. That is a deliberate lie told by the anti-Creator religious preachers trying to protect their fairy tale stores of molecules-to-man evolution supported by NO SCIENCE whatsoever from being discovered as untrue.
These anti-Creator religious types are quite dangerous to our American values.
[At first judging by his name, I thought that this was a poe but he later explains that it is actually "God is now here".]
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Did Sarah Palin find those 'dinos' for you?
Tell her to give it up and get back to watchin' the Russians, they're due for the grand overthrow any day no according to you fucknuts
See, my problem is, as a PhD drop out, I know how easy it is to get a PhD. A poo flinging monkey could do it if they had enough time and money. Especially in the sciences - jump through the hoops right and here's your Dr. In fact, it made me sick to see how stupid my fellow students were and that I didn't want to be included with their likes. Now I am much more the opposite, if you brag about having a PhD, then I know it means dick.
The only references to "alaska dinosaur ohio university" from Google and which talks about non-fossilized material, are from creationist websites.
Searching Google Scholar for the same returns NO results with references to non-fossilized dinosaur material.
I smell some really really rotten bullshit.
Cabon dating coal and diamonds? What idiot did that? Everyone knows carbon dating cannot be done on such materials.
It's the wrong tool for the job. It's like saying spanners don't work and are worthless because you couldn't tighten a screw with one.
There was a frozen Woolly Mammoth found, which was featured on a documentary on television last year, which they cut whole out of the ice and flew somewhere via helicopter for research. But 25 dinosaurs? Not.
Funny how I only find reference to frozen dinosaurs on fundie sites.
No, sorry, not funny, typical would be a better word.
Got to love how he wheels out an anthropologist and a physicist as authorities on biology. Creationists don't even know enough about science to grasp the distinctions between different disciplines. It's like how they lump the Big Bang, the subsequent development of the universe, the origins of life and the evolution of life all under the single catch-all heading of "evolution".
"These anti-Creator religious types are quite dangerous to our American values."
Because of course we should base our scientific theories on what best suits our political ideology. After all, it's worked so well in the past.
ok id love to see evidence of this, because i dont know ONE scientist who has ever refuted evolution, and stephen j gould was far from a young earth creationist. indeed he was one of the greatest advocates for the old earth model, so stop spouting shit!!
and as a biologist please,please please give me evidnce for frozen dinosaur remains. im sure the curator of the Natural History Museum in London would love to pay me £££££££'s for such an exhibit (as would my university)
oh, silly me you cant as its all a blatantly desperate lie by creationinsts to try to discredit one of the most important scientific theroies ever
you go back and believe in your faires and the crocoduck, and the rest of us will stay in the real world.
The creationist's uncited source is "The Great Alaskan Dinosaur Adventure," a book filled with claims that were never submitted for peer review and photos of fossilized boned which they claim were un-fossilized. They even openly admitted to finding a piece of driftwood and thinking it was a dinosaur bone!
And now, I cite my source.
"Some of the tests include radio carbon (performed by several of the worlds leading radiometric labs). "
cabon dating you meen that thing you say is psudoscientific and can't be tested. the thing all young eathers must reject becaused it has been used to blatantly and "dimonstrably" (first time i used that word) disprove you beliefs.
i know i horible misspelled "beliefs" and my spelling sucks in genrale so don't feel like you need to point it out.
Then tell me what dinosaur tastes like? You have no idea how scientists work... One of the first things they would have done is eaten a piece of the dinosaur.
Because they could and to see what it tasted like...
So until you give me proof of dinosaur a la mode or a dino popsicle...
A church near where I live had the bright idea of spelling out God is now here in the windows of the modern building they have and unfortunately ,or fortunately depending on your point of view, it did seem to say God is nowhere once they had done so,due the the spacing of the windows and letters.
Hundreds of scientists, eh?
I can show you seven hundred scientists named Steve who think you're full of shit.
Kurt Wise is a creationist because he is a fundamentalist, not because he is a scientist*. No evidence would change his mind on this issue...the refusal to revise opinion in light of evidence is the mark of the fundy. The inability to cling to hypotheses that have been refuted by evidence is the mark of the scientist. This is the chasm that lies between the intellectual poverty of fundamentalism and the intellectual honesty of science.
From Kurt Wise in "In Six Days"
"Although there are scientific reasons for accepting a young earth, I am a young-age creationist because that is my understanding of the Scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turned against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate."
Um, I recently graduated from Ohio University, I took archaeology while I was there, and I never heard of this.
I call bullshit.
I don't know that Kurt Wise helps much the case this guy wants to make. He's an odd specimen - he usually admits that the evidence so far seems to point towards evolution, but openly says he still refuses to believe it because it contradicts his religion. He's sometimes known as "The Honest Creationist," even by such a figure as Richard Dawkins.
And "hundreds of scientists" would still be a vanishingly small percentage of all the scientists in the world, who must number in the hundreds of thousands at least, maybe in the millions.
And scientists "in all disciplines" aren't relevant. A more arguably relevant measure is the number of active, publishing scientists in relevant fields such as biology, geology, paleontology, paleoanthropology, etc. Even then, the paragraph above applies.
And their numbers don't mean nearly as much as if they've published peer-reviewed scientific research supporting their positions, that colleagues in their field have been able to reproduce.
I could go on and on. And often do.
"Um, I recently graduated from Ohio University, I took archaeology while I was there, and I never heard of this.
I call bullshit."
I'm a fellow Alumni. I second this call.
I don't recall our university ever having anything to do with digs in Alaska.
We did once have a chemistry student throw a pound of potassium into the garbage. For those of you not familar with this particular substance, pure potassium does not like air. Once the oil it had been submerged in evaporated it turned a garbage truck into a giant garbage spewing flamethrower. It was very exciting. But it was not as revolutionary of an event as finding unfossilized dinosaurs would have been.
Ah, now, see...there's this thing called 'the news' and if what you were saying was true, it would definitely be in it.
Either:
a) You're lying.
b) You're misrepresenting this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/53650.stm
or c) you're getting mixed up between reality and Bernard Matthews Turkey Dinosaurs.
Confused?
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