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[On Hamas]

These are not real people as we define the term. Humans, yes. People, no. Pray for them, they need it so badly. They just don't see people, suffering and pain the same as we do. You have to wonder how much hate it takes to change a real person into this.

Caver, Rapture Ready 37 Comments [1/30/2009 1:03:57 AM]
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Efrain

Religion. That's all it takes.

1/30/2009 1:04:51 AM

The Lazy One

Shiny mirror is shiny.

I think the people who forfeited their person credentials are you vultures who can't see suffering and pain the same way the rest of us do. To us, the Palestinians are suffering. To you, it's just "WOO! GO ISRAEL! SCREW THE PALESTINIANS!"

You're not people either if that's what we're going by.

1/30/2009 1:06:16 AM

WMDKitty

So, how *do* you define "person"?

I know it's not how *I* define "person"!

1/30/2009 1:09:59 AM

HoJuSimpson

I...I just....what??

I'm sure jesus agrees with you.

1/30/2009 1:15:16 AM

DevilsChaplain

"They just don't see people, suffering and pain the same as we do."




Christianity and Islam = Two sides of the same lunatic coin.

1/30/2009 1:42:15 AM

343panic

Uh... Hey! Wait one cotton picking minute!
"These are not real people as we define the term. Humans, yes. People, no."
Doesn't go with:
"They just don't see people, suffering and pain the same as we do."
Well, my head is splode.

1/30/2009 1:55:33 AM

Beccs

All it takes is religion.

1/30/2009 1:56:32 AM

Max W.

The fact that they are capable of such analysis of others, and yet, cannot, in any way, critically apply such scrutiny upon themselves, speaks volumes.

1/30/2009 3:10:24 AM

Old Viking

We're aware of how you see people, suffering and pain.

1/30/2009 3:25:10 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

I don't particularly like Hamas but, I'll take a punt and guess that most members of Hamas, living as they do on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, have seen more suffering and pain than Caver and the rest of the RR cultists will ever see in their lifetimes.
Unfortunately, because Hamas are fundies just like RR they see human beings in exactly the same terms as the RR crowd does, as inferior and corrupted slaves of a stern and uncaring God, expendable, without inalienable rights and deserving of punishment.

1/30/2009 3:47:59 AM

Zoo

Please.

1/30/2009 3:49:46 AM

werewolf

You, sir, are a moron.

1/30/2009 7:02:30 AM

redfergus

Hamas, unlike G W Bush and Gordon Brown, were democratically elected to lead their countries, by the people, with a proper vote. Where does that leave your bullshit?

fergus

1/30/2009 11:41:19 AM

aaa

They have more pain and suffering than you ever will have.

1/30/2009 12:11:17 PM

Lucretius

The words & ideas of genocidal lunatics throughout history

1/30/2009 12:25:02 PM

Illuminatalie

Tolpuddle Martyr wins.

1/30/2009 12:43:42 PM

Doctor Whom

Said Tweedlefundiedee about Tweedlefundiedum.

1/30/2009 3:02:14 PM

GigaGuess

And the Palestinian woman wailing over their dead children, completely, utterly shattered just prove that so well. But then, allowing yourself to see the enemy as people makes it harder to eradicate them, doesn't it?

1/30/2009 3:51:14 PM

Blaidd Drwg (Bad Wolf)

It makes it so much easier to condone the mass slaughter of your enemies if you can claim that they are not "real people", doesn't it?

The KKK defines Blacks as "mud-people", and you define Hamas as not real people.

You have to wonder how much hate it takes to make someone deny the 'personhood' of an entire religious sect.

Disgusting

1/30/2009 3:55:48 PM

Blackclaw

"Hamas, unlike G W Bush and Gordon Brown, were democratically elected to lead their countries, by the people, with a proper vote."

By the rules of US election law, Bush was elected. Given the types of folks we see in RR, one can imagine how a bit of apathy or being ill-informed on the part of moderate Americans can have that kind of result.

Hamas was democratically elected. And to make sure they stayed that way, Hamas threw their political opponents off buildings or machine-gunned them in the Gaza strip.

Hamas uses the same mindset that we see displayed when a member of RR declares the US should execute Homosexuals. They believe whatever they do is right and everyone else's rights and lives are expendable.

1/30/2009 4:18:21 PM

MarkS

How do they get that way? Imagine the Russians had come over and taken your grandfather's land away. Would you still be fighting for it?


1/30/2009 4:24:22 PM



These are not real people as we define the term. Humans, yes. People, no... They just don't see people, suffering and pain the same as we do.

You mean like foetuses?

1/30/2009 4:25:42 PM



These are not real people as we define the term.

(in Roger Daltrey's voice) Well who the fuck are you?!?!

Humans, yes. People, no.

They may have a differing opinion and world-view than you but they are still people.

You have to wonder how much hate it takes to change a real person into this.

So what's your excuse?

1/30/2009 4:28:33 PM

NewShoes

The Hamas freaks are trying to accelerate the onset of chaos in the Middle East - isn't that just what you Rapture Ready freaks are always clamoring for? You're on the same side!


1/30/2009 4:33:21 PM

JohnTheAtheist

It takes religion to make good people do bad things.

1/30/2009 4:52:13 PM
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