OK you say look at the third world. Take India. They are in the billions in numbers and are ultra poverished and diseased. But they do not worship the true God the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. The God of the Bible. Those of your ilk make a huge mistake and miscalculation in lumping all religions together and use their failings as an argument why God cant exist because look at the mess they are all in. Thats because they worship cows and believe you could come back as a slug. Thats not loving the creator. No wonder He does not bless them. Ask this. Why has our Nation (that being the US) been so blessed over its very short history? Because we were a nation founded on Judeo Christian principles. God has blessed this nation and as long as we worship Him it will stay that way. But if your kind have your way that too will change. But you will not suceed, it will survive just as it has for 2000 years. Your attacks are puny and will be futile. You are the one whose eyes need to be opened and realise that when it comes to the love of God and Werner it is you who are responsible for the decision. It has nothing to do with any one else or any other persons shortcomings or any other nations beliefs that you will use just as an excuse to not believe. You are on your own on that one.
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"Ask this. Why has our Nation (that being the US) been so blessed over its very short history? Because we were a nation founded on Judeo Christian principles."
THE FAIL, IT BUURRRNSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Thats because they worship cows and believe you could come back as a slug. Thats not loving the creator."
Of course not, a loving creator tortures you forever if you happen to be born in a region where his One True Religion doesn't exist.
Right... the problems in India are about religion, and have nothing to do with the British Empire destroying their economy to turn them from a net exporter of cloth into producers of raw materials and net importers so England would be enriched, amongst many other abuses of that era and their legacies...
Oh, wait, history means nothing to people like you. I should remember that.
the indian and surrounding nations may be third world by our standards, but i tell you what, they are the nicest peopel you could wish to meet.
unlike this moron who would'nt know poverty if it fucked him up the arse!!
I'm sure colonialism had nothing to do with India(and China) being developing nations. I'm sure they appreciated being raped of natural resources and having its people used for cheap labor. Note: Civilization was thriving in India and China while Abraham was busy jerking off his goats.
Edit: Damn, a couple of people beat me to the point about colonialism.
Japan, Denmark, Sweden, and the Netherlands would like to have a word with you. Also, Treaty of Tripoli, bitch.
1) India's population does not at yet consist of "Billions in Numbers", although it's population is expected to pass the 1 Billion mark in 2020.
2) The Indian Muslim populstion (approx 140 Million) DOES worship "The True Abrahamic God", as Kevin puts it, though they call him Allah, & believe, that Jesus was a human Prophet, not the Son Of God...
3) You can argue that Indian Civilisation has lasted far longer than the Civilisation, that Kevin posits for the U.S...
(Needless to say, some Amerindians/Native Americans will dispute this bitterly, given the treatment they recieved from "Civilised" Judeo-Christians in the past...)>
In 2008, the United States placed 97th on the Global Peace Index, right behind Jamaica. Jamaica.
Currently, Jamaica is having problems in that mobs are killing gays with machetes. And the States placed behind Jamaica.
Yes, blessed are the States...
Why has Rome been so blessed over its history? Because we were an empire founded on Etruscan and Greek beliefs, ancestor worship, the Imperial cult and animism! Jupiter, Juno and Minerva have blessed this empire and as long as we worship them it will stay this way! But if your kind have their way, that too will change* But you will not succeed and it will survive ust as it has for 2,000 years!
*and you did, you fucking cunts.
Brazil is the world's largest Catholic country. Yes, Catholics are Christians. The shantytowns, as favelas , outside of Rio are some of the most dangerous slums in the world with all the crime and drug-trafficking. Why hasn't God blessed Brazil?
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The US hasn't been around 2000 years. Learn to subtract. But in our short 230 year history we've had
- Slavery
- Native American genocide
- Salem Witch Trials
- War of 1812
- The Civil War
- World War I
- The Great Depression
- World War II
- The Cold War
- The Korean War
- The Vietnam War
- Child Labor
- First and Second Iraq Wars
... and numerous earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes etc.
Life here has been a bowl of cherries.
Ok, but I'm not sure you'd be so convinced in (overwhelmingly Christian) downtown Lagos. I also suspect that your hometown has nothing on the economic boom of Dubai.
And, for the record, India's small but certainly existant Christian population is often among it's most impoverished minority.
There is no more reason to believe in your God than there is to believe that the steak I had for supper last night used to be my grandmother. There is not the slightest shred of tangible evidence for either.
Hence, you are a lot closer to atheists in spirit than you idiots ever realize. We only believe in one less God than you do. Given how many Gods there have been, the difference in percentage terms is minute. All of us are predominantly atheist, some of us just go the last tiny little step further.
America strikes many visitors as an amazingly creative and exciting country, hospitable and generous towards the newcomer AND AT THE SAME TIME seriously disfunctional, riven by its absurd "culture war", obsessed with violence and by the need to dominate the rest of the world. So, because you are a mixed up sort of place, we love you and we hate you, want to be like you and that's the last thing we want, all at once. You need to understand this.
One thing we don't see you as is "blessed". Nor as particularly Christian. Religious, yes: but too much American "Christianity", especially on the Right, is anti-intellectual and morally disgraceful, in hock to the neo-con agenda. Non-American Christians wonder how you ever got so hung up on the creation vs evolution non-debate, abortion and homosexuality and all the Rapture codswallop: for us these just aren't issues. We no more discuss evolution than calculus, we just learn these things. American Christianity needs to grow up - what authority do semi-educated US fundamentalists have to preach to the rest of us?
Well, Mitt 'Magic Pants' Romney said he was all for Outsourcing to China...!
Methinks Kevin here doth protest too much. Certainly the last time he was redirected to a tech support call centre in Mumbai. [/hyper-smartarse]
Funny then, that for a place such as India, acknowledged as the most religious country on the planet, outside of those Hindu/Sikh temples, Islamic mosques, and even Christian churches there, socio-politically - including it's own Parliament & the political parties therein - it's even more secular than the UK.
And again Christianity taking the credit for Americas free people constitution and opportunity to own land. Neither which the church agrees with, introduced or supported.
America (and Canada) became soverign free countries with modern world rights which included NO OBLIGATIONS TO CHURCH, free association. The church only rolled in where enough believers could support them, just like lawn bowling clubs or any other group association.
The churchs did not settle and develop the land, aid in agriculture or industry, develop the democratic system and laws of the land or encourage the secular society in anyway. The church followed the money and offered only a non-product to it's followers, as you do to this day.
Then tell me why this nation has the most gun violence? Or the absurd amount of poverty? Or a mess of an education system?
Oh, wait, you can't look beyond your little sphere of comfort because someone told you not to do that.
Your church didn't develop the land of plenty, it rode on the back of it's prosperity.
This is easily evidenced. Stop taking credit for the resources, efforts and ingenuity over the decades. You have only been a parasite within the works.
Your church didn't develop the land of plenty, it rode on the back of it's prosperity.
This is easily evidenced. Stop taking credit for the resources, efforts and ingenuity over the decades. You have only been a parasite within the works.
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