(not that we needed any more proof that the Rapture Readians are batshit insane, but...)
I allowed my oldest daughter (she was 18 at the time) to make her own decision about the Harry Potter books, because when she first started reading- I knew nothing about them. After the first two books-- she brought the stack of books out of her room and said she didn't feel right about reading them, because she was remembering all the spells that were done in the books at random times. She would be sitting somewhere doing something totally unrelated and she could remember every word of the spells in the books just out of the blue. It scared her. We got the books out of the house-- and we had prayer over our home--and over our daughter. She says that even now, she still has thoughts about some of the spells in those books that she read. It's been over a year since she read them. I've encouraged her to just pray-- every time one of those things enters her mind. God is stronger than any seed that may have been planted in her mind from a book.
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"Wingardium leviosa"... not that hard to remember, and a lot of the "incantations" were quite catchy, and all were a maximum of two words, really.
I suspect there's more to this story.
Oh geez... those spells in those books are fake, any real pagan can tell you that.
Plus I remember lines from books and movies such as those on A Nightmare on Elm St. Does this mean that I can get possessed by Freddy Krueger?
The stupid is strong in this one.
I sometimes randomly remember the scientific names of various animals (somewhat more obscure and difficult ones -- Oreailurus jacobita, e.g.). Oh no! Scary demonic influence!
I haven't read the books myself so I can't say for sure, but if that's what she's remembering, there's probably some built in mnemonic, like rhythm and/or rhyme.
If you're such a mouth breathing dullard that remembering one or two word "spells" is evidence of Satan to you, you better be wary of actors--they remember pages and pages of lines and can recite them at command.
Incidentally, how is that any different from the people who can quote Biblical verse from memory?
Oh noes! My 18 year old daughter read a fictional book!
You allowed her? Oh, that's right, a woman (no matter what age) is always someone's property be it parents or husband. How silly of me to forget that.
Meh. This one was too lazy to lie for Jesus, she just exaggerated for Jesus. Sad how teh fundee crazee destroys whole families. Her kids are probably as insane as she is, and equally unfit for life in the real world.
God is stronger than any seed that may have been planted in her mind from a book.
Then why do you worry about it so?
You don't really believe it, do you?
I'm sorry, but is this 18-year-old, um, a bit "special"? Like, clinically special in the head? If she's not that, she's not just indoctrinated, she's marinated! I hope she can open a window in her mind soon.
So if she read Macbeth, would she be praying to stop recurring thoughts about murdering people? Anybody who thinks their minds are being possessed by some work of fiction they read needs medical help. If she ever watches Psycho, I'd stay out of the shower when she's around.
So she remembered some parts of the books at random moments, kind of like all of a sudden you get a crappy song stuck in your head and it won't go away. OMFG, somebody call the damn exorcist. Damn all those books and songs.
It's been over three years since I abandoned the Christian faith, and I still have Bible verses going through my head...
Unlike you, I do not worry about fictional passages from a book, though, as I do not attribute any magical powers to them.
Wait, wait, wait. You allowed and eighteen-year-old adult woman to make her own decision about a children's novel? Oh, you're so not a helicopter parent, are you?
I call shenanigans!
A home-schooled second generation fundie who can remember two words of a book other than the bible?
Piffle, sir! And balderdash!
Witlessness of fundies astound me.
I am starting to think that a cull by IQ would leave the humanity in such numbers that we wouldn't be left with a sustainable gene pool. Even if the cutoff point is at 100.
Shit, I want the mind control edition of the Harry Potter books.
Not to read, to use on everyone else.
My efforts at locating a Necronomicon have been unsuccessful. I'll settle for this.
See, here is the problem.
You have taught your child from birth that certain special words will make supernatural things happen. Like prayer.
Now she is afraid of complete fiction because it has words that sound special.
In other words, 3kidzmom, you are the DIRECT CAUSE for your daughters mental strife.
18 and afraid of fictional witches? Wow! You've really done a mindfuck on your daughter. Shame on you!
BTW, I am apparently possessed by the spirit of Homer since particularly funny lines from The Simpsons often pop into my mind ... usually in response to apropos situations.
She was reading a fictional tale. Don't you know what fiction is? Are you fundie Americans really so stupid?
If you give me her address I will send her some real Magick books, and she'll be able to conjure up demons and do real spells and turn her head around through a full circle and stuff like that.
She would be sitting somewhere doing something totally unrelated and she could remember every word of the spells in the books just out of the blue. It scared her.
A whole two words at a time. Gosh, now there's a feat.
*ahem* <i>Sonorous</i>.
MEMORY ALWAYS WORKS THAT WAY!!! GOODNIGHT!!!
<i>Quietus</i>.
@avatar: If the cutoff point is 100, we'd be left with half of the population. By definition.
1. You know, humans have this thing that allows them to absorb information, store it in their brains, and recall it at a moment's notice. It's called 'memory'.
2. The spells are amazingly easy to remember. I think the reason is because they are commonly one to two words, and are often a Latin word or a root word that describes what the spell does. (e.g. "reparo" repairs things, "petrificus totallus" petrifies something totally, etc.)
3. She's probably feeling worried because she's heard so much about how sinful/evil/wicked/demonic the books are, and she kept that in mind while reading them. Maybe she enjoyed them and is feeling conflicted. I don't know.
To summarize: You...are...an...idiot.
God is stronger than any seed that may have been planted in her mind from a book.
If your god is so strong, why didn't he prevent the book from planting any seeds in your daughter's mind in the first place?
Well duh, if you're gonna keep thinking: "Must not think of spells, must not think of spells", are you surprised at all they keep popping into your mind? A million thoughts do that regularly, but we ignore them. Only when your mind wanders to the spells, you remember em clearly due to your bias.
If I lived with a mirin like this, I dare say I'd find the words 'crucio' and 'avada kedavra' coming to mind quite often.
Seriousnly, though, what do you expect? You're a brain dead fundie who taught your daughter to be one also, so naturely you're an idiot, and she is likewise.
Both of you are probably paranoid schizophreniacs.
Aren't people legally adults at the age of 18 in the US?
I remember a lot of "spells" too, from my earliest school year. One begins "Our Father, who art in heaven..." Those have been in my head for more than 30 years.
I also remember lines from children's books that my parents read to me before I started school. It's called memory.
She's old enough to vote, enlist in the military and risk her life, her peers are going off to college and you're still choosing her reading material for her? Will you be arranging her marriage as well?
@ Mintywolf
"Oh god, Latin is teh ebil!!!!! "
- Hey, if King James English was good enough for Jesus...
Every word of the spells? WOW!!!
The really, really long ones are three or four words, almost all are one or two words, and they are mostly in English, with a Latin-ish pronounciation.
She got all the seven books first, and THEN started reading? Maybe she should have read one first, and then decide whether she wanted to buy and read the rest?
"After the first two books-- she brought the stack of books out of her room and said she didn't feel right about reading them"
I guess the same could be said of other fiction books:
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'Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived '
-Isaac Asimov
What is a fairy story? A miserable little pile of bullshit.
[/Castlevania]
It's called short term memory. It's not like a computer where you hit a button and the file you want pulls up, sometimes it just plops a file onto your desktop. How many times are you puttering around the house and a random Bible quote just whistles through your ears? Guess what honey, that's no les divine than your daughter's "demonic" recollections.
Confused?
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