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Ok lets assume the tornado is in the junkyard for a couple of million years..Still doesnt add up. Complexity will never come from chance or nothing. It would be like taking a watch to an indian who has never seen technology like that and then telling him it just happened and no one made it. My point is evolution does NOT explain away God. It tries to but its failing currently..

Wally22, Christian Forums 9 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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#363714
Darwin's Lil' Girl

...'Tornado'?! Where the hey did that come from?!

12/17/2007 5:44:44 PM

#363720
Katsuro

All together now,1...2...3!

Evolution does not work that way!

12/17/2007 5:48:28 PM

#363873
GigaGuess

"Ok lets assume the tornado is in the junkyard for a couple of million years..Still doesnt add up."
Of course it doesn't. First, the necessary components aren't there (I assume this is the tornado making a 747 argument) and second, evolution requires genetic transfer. If two bolts could reproduce and make a batter, you'd have a point, but that don't happen, so...

"Complexity will never come from chance or nothing."
Snowflakes. An infinitely intricate pattern formed by their random path as they fall.

"It would be like taking a watch to an indian who has never seen technology like that and then telling him it just happened and no one made it."
As opposed to saying that someone who you cannot meet or see made this watch, perfect and inerrantly...never mind the fact that it requires frequent winding, gains a second to each minute and may fall apart with anything above a tap.

"My point is evolution does NOT explain away God. It tries to but its failing currently.."
And my point is that it doesn't try to. It's not our fault that your facts aren't adding up.

12/17/2007 7:51:38 PM

#392963
Anon

Yeah, we all know those Indians and their bewilderment with timepieces. I guess being a moronic racist is easier when you make up your own stereotypes.

1/28/2008 4:36:05 PM

#392972
Caustic Gnostic

Evolution explains HOW "god created everything", if you're so hung up on that metaphor. And no, it didn't happen in six days.

1/28/2008 5:07:29 PM

#392973
McCulloch

As far as I know, they have watches in India.

1/28/2008 5:12:42 PM

#826189
Atheist Amy

GODDIDIT!

Seriously though, you don't make the next logical step in the Boeing 747 argument. As Mr. Dawkins pointed out, even if evolution did apply to junkyards and tornadoes, wouldn't the thing that created such complexity be even infinately more complex? Doesn't this lead to an endless regression in creators, each more complex than the creator it created? You've created more of a problem than you've solved in your weak and easily discreditable rejection of evolution.

12/26/2008 1:57:37 AM

#826193
a mind far far away

Here's the problem of your strawman; evolution isn't designed to refute the exitence of a deity. Many christians, Jews, Muslims, and others believe in evolution. The only way evolution refutes the idea of a god is twofold: 1. it supposes the idea that your god exists, and 2. that a literal reading of the first chapter in genesis is true. Since science can refute point 2, fundies take it to mean it also refutes point 1. However, point 1 is outside the realm of direct science. But many believe point 2 is invalid and not true, accepting science, and still believe in point 1. So you fail regardless, whether there is or isn't a god.

12/26/2008 2:12:48 AM

#826256
Tired Christian

Okay, that was all crap. But they did make one reasonably valid point: "evolution does NOT explain away God". Unfortunately they didn't realize that everyone else has pretty much understood that and knows that the bible does that.

12/26/2008 3:50:35 AM
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