When I investigated it I saw that Darwinism lay at the root of all this suffering, trouble, violence and pain as there would be no materialism without Darwinism. Darwinism is essential for materialist philosophy and without materialism there can be no communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror. These are all inter-related, but because people are ignorant of that, they fail to grasp the importance of the intellectual struggle against Darwinism.
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...communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror. These are all inter-related...
My brain exploded.
I think this one is committing the common fundie error of confusing the outdated term "social darwinism"(look it up) with evolution, when the two really have nothing to do with each other.
Either that, or he's just another lying fucktard.
@ Antichrist
What if the Muslim fundies, Jewish fundies and the Christian fundies decide to set aside their differences?
Godwarriors...come out to play-eeyay...
Materialism is greed. You think that started in the last 150 years? Look at your own holy book. Tax-collectors (government officials on the take) and money-lenders (loan-sharks). What makes people do these things that rob other people blind? Greed! And this was 2000 years ago. Today, we still hear about bribery at all levels of government, and money-lenders have killed the economy. Greed is nothing new.
There can be no communism without materialism?
WTF do you even imagine you are saying?...because I have no clue...other than that your insane.
"I can just spout shit out of my ass...who cares what the words actually mean...I know what I'm trying to say...err...sorta?"
Learn to use concise language to convey meaning then come back and try again.
Ah, the great Harun Yahya, whose "Atlas of Creation" we've received unsolicited at our lab... The guy can't erect one coherent argument, let alone a text piece that doesn't read like a screed.
@ Pule Thamex: He's Muslim. His real name is Adnan Oktar, he's a Turkish interior designer and the leading creationist in the Muslim world.
I think you got mixed up and said Darwinism when you meant to say Islam.
FYI, there is no religion of Darwin, you just made that up in your retarded mind.
@ ausador
Depends on how you define the word. Marx spoke of "dialectical materialism" in his writings. Dialectic referring to the method of argument and "materialism" meaning that a belief that all things are comprised of material, and all phenomena are the result of material interactions. This definition of materialism can be said to encompass other secular modes of thought like capitalism. But to credit Darwin with every materialist mode of thought is absurd, materialist thinking predated him by thousands of years - it's proponants included a number of Classical Greek philosophers.
"When I investigated it I saw that Darwinism lay at the root of all this suffering, trouble, violence and pain as there would be no materialism without Darwinism"
Aaaand what about before Charles Darwin was born? There was just as much 'suffering, trouble, violence and pain' and materialism before the word 'Evolution' had been thought of.
"Darwinism is essential for materialist philosophy and without materialism there can be no communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror"
Maybe not Communism, but the rest existed since the dawn of recorded history. If anything, this proves that religion (including Christianity) was responsible for most of the wars, bloodshed & misery in the world. Certainly so to this day.
You FAIL.
When I started reading, I thought it was just another generic fundie idiot blaming evolution for all the ills in the world.
But then I saw it was by Harun Yahya, and was shocked. How fuck can anyone take what this person says seriously?
"Darwinism is essential for materialist philosophy and without materialism there can be no communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror."
Appeal to consequences to justify opposition to scientific theory = automatic 5.
I'm so relieved to find out that the Golden Age of Greece, the Roman Empire, the Macedonian Empire, and so many others before, say 500 A.D. - were simply illusions. What a warped sense of history I was taught!
The association of evolution and communism is fatally flawed. If evolution can be likened to an economic system it's surely free-market capitalism: both are based on the idea of entities that are suited to their environment prospering and those that aren't dying out.
Edit: oh, he mentioned capitalism. How the hell can evolutionary theory be to blame for both communism *and* capitalism?
"… as there would be no materialism without Darwinism.”
First thing that comes to mine are Sumptuary Laws. “any law designed to restrict excessive personal expenditures in the interest of preventing extravagance and luxury”
You couldn’t wear clothes, jewelry as a rich person would unless you were actually rich. No ‘keeping up with the Joneses.
First examples go back to 7th Century BC.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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