A district court in Saudi Arabian capital Jeddah sentenced a pregnant gang -rape victim to 100 lashes and one year imprisonment after the court pronounced her of committing adultery.
The 23-year old woman was reportedly assaulted after accepting a lift from a man in Jeddah. She was taken into a house and was raped by the man and his four friends. The woman after getting pregnant went to King Fahd Hospital for Armed Forces in an attempt to carry out an abortion where her 'crime' was revealed.
The judge who pronounced the verdict said that the unmarried woman had committed adultery as she became pregnant after a forced sexual intercourse. She will be sent to a prison outside Jeddah to spend the one year imprisonment where she will be flogged after delivering her child.
According to Islamic Sharia law, The testimony of four male witnesses is the standard for establishing guilt in sexual offenses. If four male witnesses do not come forward and the rape victim becomes pregnant, her pregnancy becomes evidence that she has committed adultery.
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@Doctor Whom:
There's no need to bring Judeo-Christian beliefs into this. This has nothing to do with them.
And no, I'm not trying to defend them. I'm just saying let's focus on Islam for now. Don't worry, someone will post something from RR soon enough.
There's no need to bring Judeo-Christian beliefs into this. This has nothing to do with them
This is just an opinion. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, all consider the Old Testament a holy text. Mainstream Judaism takes it with the biggest grain of salt (considers it in light of the customs and beliefs of those times, not as a rulebook for modern civilization) and Islam takes it the most seriously. While Christian Fundamentalism is heading slowly but surely in the same direction, it is nowhere near as barbaric (yet). A gay couple, or outspoken female teacher, could live openly in a city in the bible belt, and wouldn't even think of trying that in the most tolerant of the Muslim states.
Fuck shit bastard asshole cockmongling douchebags! Sheep fucking shit licking donkey cock gargling cunt fearing dog humpers!
ARGH! Mere words cannot contain my disgust and anger. Why haven't we broken all ties with this country?
This is why I don't believe in a god or gods, fundies of every religion. If a deity gave a crap, even the tiniest crap about people, disgusting things like this wouldn't happen.
Yet another reason why we need to reduce our use of oil. If they're going to behave like 10th century barbarians, they ought to live like they are in 10th century, too and not have fancy homes and ride around in expensive cars.
The laws of Saudi Arabia are about as far from being just as it is possible. Pity this woman's bad luck, that she lives in one of the worst places on the planet.
Edit: @Agnostic Antagonist
Quit your whining. They're all essentially the same backwards desert god, and it's a good idea to point out that the Bible is no better than the Qu'ran before any Christian fundies jump over Islam like drooling hypocrites.
Ugh. There really are no words to describe my disgust at this. See, fundies? Religious government in action. Although I'm sure some of you will agree with the ruling and others would only be bothered if it happened to yourselves or a very close relative. Religion is really the root of all evil in a modern, morally forward-thinking society.
Atheist Amy - "Religion is really the root of all evil in a modern, morally forward-thinking society."
QFT. Perhaps not the root of all evil, money and power will still exist to cause crime, but once we educate religion out of the world, a LOT of today's problems will be solved.
They didn't allow her to abort rape child and sentenced her to prison and flogging. Unmarried woman, for adultery no less. Tell me again why there is still sharia law? And why four witnesses when we have, what is it called, you know CSI, DNA analysis... ah yes. Forensics!
Ah yes, Saudi Arabia. Loyal ally of the USA. And do you know what, it's going to get worse, because once the oil money isn't there to keep the populace docile, the Saudi monarchy is going to be swept away and replaced by a Taliban. What a happy thought.
Clown they don't believe in forensics because they don't believe in science. The most fundie of the islam fundies actually don't even believe in cause and effect. They believe:
Stimulus -> God decides to make effect -> Effect
My brain hurts
Are you fucking SERIOUS?! So, what, you can only become pregnant if you really, deep down, wanted it? Or what? Oh, I'm putting too much thought into Sharia's consideration of women. She got knocked up, ergo she's no good to anyone anymore.
Yes, islamic law, probably the only law that punishes rape victims for getting raped and leaves the offenders at large (unless they´re stupid and do things like raping her in public, leaving witnesses to the act)
Disgusting
There is only one, meagre source of solace for this: when Saudi oil runs out, and the rest of the world is both pissed off for lack of fuel and no longer forced to turn a blind eye to their barbarism, those guys are going to be so fucked.
Seriously, fuck islam. fuck their god, fuck their prophet, fuck their massive inferiority complex, fuck every last one of them. More proof that islam is incompatible with civilization. And no, christianity isn't really any better.
So, errm, nobody thinks that she was asking for it?
C'mon, she's a woman in S. Arabia!
It's fucking obvious that she WANTED to be fucked by 4 guys!
This is just plain fucked up. It has to be said though, the governments of the western world don't seem to really give a shit about much of what goes on in the medieval theocracy of Saudi Arabia. When an upstart like Saddam (No less of a maggot than the Saudi royals, just less important) thumbs his nose at the west, America invades with the UK's, Australias and Polands help and the rest of the Western world quibbles but basically doesent give a shit.
This sort of inhuman barbarity in Saudiland barely raises a whimper in Whitehall or the White House because there's oil under them there sands so our leaders buy their gas and leave them to beat, rape and whip their women in peace.
@PWEOTWEB
I'd say the evidence presented gives a rather resounding NO. Sharia says, and with that, they let the men go scot free, and leave the victim to be punished. And since it's in strict accordance to Sharia law, they need not lose any sleep, as they were just following the laws of the land.
To #950011:
Shut the fuck up, you witless gut-parasite. From now on, I'm going to post in every christian fundy thread, "They're almost as bad as the muslim fundies" from now on.
I'm sorry, but I can't see why people always compare Islam to Christianity, when Islam is clearly much, much worse. Really, I find it impossible not to hate Islam after reading this.
Anyone else ready to lobby strongly for sharp steps away from oil-based products or fuels? Oil money helps encourage this kind of fundamentalism, it funds it, and serves as a shield to protect it from the kind of ostracization it needs from the sane secular arm of society.
"If four male witnesses do not come forward and the rape victim becomes pregnant, her pregnancy becomes evidence that she has committed adultery."
hehe hehe Ha Ha Ha HAAAAAAA...fuck you and die!
You Saudis will run out of victims sooner or later... you'll run out of people because you killed all the women for the crime of being rape victims.
All flames will burn themselves out in the end, not matter how much fuel was fed to it.
Adultery is the same thing as rape? I'd say Welcome to the Dark Ages, but I suspect even the Dark Ages knew better than that.
Still, as a test case for all that is wrong with extreme religious views, you can't get much clearer than this.
What about the intent of the person? She had no intention of committing adultery, and she had no choice in the matter. This makes me sick!
It makes me angry that my government wants to do business with this medieval country; selling them guns and helping them build a gun-factory, and is unsure whether it's a democracy or not. As long as half the population is treated as property
IT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!
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