See the logical fallacy/theory "True Scotsman". CottShop seems to have skipped it.
2/16/2009 10:20:46 PM
They were not REAL (tm) Christians, because if they were, they'd make us look terrible.
2/16/2009 10:24:17 PM
the crusades would have killed many more people if they had been during a more modern time with more advanced weapons and the higher populations we have today, it's more a matter of time period
2/16/2009 10:25:57 PM
No true scotsman for the lose!
2/16/2009 10:27:46 PM
You have suspiciously forgotten to mention how one recognizes a True Christian™.
2/16/2009 10:33:18 PM
No true scotsman. Not even worth reading after i drifted my eyes upon "not true christians"
2/16/2009 10:34:41 PM
A billion? Since when?
Are you people still so brainwashed by the government that you think everyone who is a socialist or communist are 'evil athiests'? No true Scotsman, scapegoating, lying about religious involvement, etc.
And by the way, religion, becuase of its followers, have killed more people. It's a fact of life, get over it.
2/16/2009 10:49:16 PM
Try a couple of million for the crusades, the 4th crusade alone killed over 400'000 civilians.
2/16/2009 10:51:55 PM
"As compared to say secularists who murdered what? A billion or so in the name of socialism and comunism?"
Forced government worship is just as bad as religious worship. Come on, your logic is fucking useless, and your argument relies on stupidity and outright lies.
2/16/2009 10:52:29 PM
Everytime this accusaiton is brought up this needs to be pointed out- but folks like you just simply ignore it, Deny that those that carried out those terrible orders were infact NOT TRUE Christians, but wolves in sheeps clothing.
By that logic, you could prove that no Christian ever does anything wrong: every time a Christian is accused of wrongdoing, just redefine the word "Christian". We don't "ignore" it; we just see it for the "no true Scotsman" fallacy that it is.
2/16/2009 10:58:34 PM
2/16/2009 11:10:31 PM
So, by his own "logic", CottShop and the other Freepers are not TrueChristians(TM) because they are not pacifists. See you in Hell CottShop.
2/16/2009 11:13:42 PM
10000 people? Off by a factor of at least a hundred
2/16/2009 11:14:57 PM
Okay there is so much wrong here.
First of all secularism is not atheism, which is not socalism, which is only kind of communism.
Secondly the Crusades were Christian. And they killed more then 10,000 people. You see back then there was no secularism. The church and the state were very tightly woven. The kings were Christians, and they got their power from the church. This is why coronation ceremonies required a bishop to crown a new king. This is why kings are portrayed holding a scepter in one hand, and then holding an orb with a cross on it. That right there is the definition of theocracy.
2/16/2009 11:25:25 PM
You misspelled 'teh'
the position of hte church at hte behest of a corrupt
Christians who carry out hte orders of who again?
2/16/2009 11:34:57 PM
The FUCKING CHURCH, arent 'true christians' but COMMUNISTS are obviously 'true athiests'.
2/16/2009 11:56:10 PM
You're the sort of conceited loon that could only exist in a very sheltered environment.
2/17/2009 12:24:42 AM
You've been corrected so many times now you must be a stupid uneducated simpleton. All the posts on here from Free Republic are among the stupidest I've seen. What is Free Republic? A club for stupid people.
Listen twat head, you like violence, atheists are against violence. Now fuck off.
2/17/2009 12:38:11 AM
@ Pule Thamex : An arch-conservative forum.
2/17/2009 1:00:01 AM
"...when the FACT is that it is secularists posing as Christians who carry out hte orders of who again? Oh yeah- more secularists"
RCC = secularists now?
2/17/2009 1:06:22 AM
The Church ran everything back then. Especially the governments. Of course they did things to get power and wealth. Because that's what religion is for. To get stupid people to give up their money and minds to people dressed in silly robes and hats. To become a Templar you had to give your land, house, money, everything to the Church. It was the only way to be "blessed by god".
2/17/2009 1:11:11 AM
No one's a true Christian. Except you, right?
2/17/2009 1:15:36 AM
Um, the sack of Constantinople? Good Christian-on-Christian blood action, you betcha.
2/17/2009 1:18:01 AM
"let’s throw some numbers aro8und"
Like you just threw that eight in there?
2/17/2009 2:02:21 AM
That's weird, because I'm pro-secular, and I'm just doing fine not killing anyone.
2/17/2009 2:04:15 AM