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Evolutionists, what is your answer for how the mammoths got frozen in place?

Here is an explanation from a REAL scientist.

An ice meteor came flying through space and crashed into Earth. Due to the Earth's magnetic field, all of the ice fell and gathered on the poles (top and bottom). Also, the mammoths were instantly frozen in place. Also, the remnants flew out into space and created the polar caps of Mars and the icy rings of Saturn (what's your explanation for how those got there?).

If the mammoths got frozen in place, which they did, it couldn't have happened gradually. They would have decomposed. But they got frozen practically in place and instantly. This raises suspicion.

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This is from Kent Hovind. I can't find an actual web site, but you can read about it on Wikipeidia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#The_Hovind_Theory

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#905197

QT

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

2/18/2009 9:23:03 AM

#905412

Dogmeat

Sourcing Kent Hovind, through Wikipedia. COMBO FAIL!

2/18/2009 2:26:53 PM

#905505

Sevagram

Remind me again why eugenics is considered a bad idea?

2/18/2009 4:13:38 PM

#905510

Bryan65

So you're source is 'Dick-Drainer' Kent? The best bitch in C Block?

Then you're a bigger dickhead than he is.

2/18/2009 4:17:43 PM

#905519

ClockworkBunny

The remnants of the ice meteor flew into space and created the rings of Saturn?

Oh, hell no.

2/18/2009 4:25:00 PM

#905544

Grigadil

There are frozen mammoths in orbit around Saturn. When "the remnants flew out into space", they had trapped wildlife inside them. All it took was a reversal of the magnetic field to launch them into a Hohmann orbit toward Saturn.

Duh. This would be fun for a bored schoolkid, for a few minutes anyway.

2/18/2009 4:45:54 PM

#905692

tracer

Ecitsuj wrote:

"despite the fact that I disagree with Mr Hovind almost entirely on this subject (I'll believe an ice barrier that broke or a flash flood followed by a flash freeze first), it does raise an interesting question: what is science's explanation for this 'occurance'? it obviously occured fast enough to catch them off guard."

Remember that for every mammoth we find frozen, there were probably skillions that weren't frozen.

The frozen ones were the unlucky ones who got caught in a snowstorm. They froze to death. Eventually, their carcasses were encased in ice and covered with snow from the storm.

The reason they were found standing up is that, like many modern animals (e.g. horses), mammoths don't lie down when they rest.

2/18/2009 7:13:32 PM

#905898

Faxon

What? What? What?

2/18/2009 9:53:59 PM

#905905

Quantum Mechanic

I quit reading at "magnetic field."

2/18/2009 9:55:20 PM

#905912

This sounds like a comic book plot.

2/18/2009 10:00:37 PM

#905923

Elohim

Ah! !
The Hovind Theory
Stupidity in motion

2/18/2009 10:08:02 PM

#906844

anonymous

Why would creationists think there's a "problem" with explaining frozen mammoths considering they lived in the ICE AGES?

2/19/2009 6:10:09 PM

#906854

David B.

"Here is an explanation from a REAL scientist."

Nominate for "Worst misspelling of PRETEND" award!

(Well, we haven't had one for a while.)

2/19/2009 6:14:51 PM

#949910

King Harkinian

Yes, the man who got his degree from a diploma factory and, in another lecture, showed us his lack of knowledge in terms of DNA and reproduction as a whole.
The Hovind "Theory", to paraphrase a famous YouTube biologist, isn't a theory; it isn't even a coherent idea. We have a damn good explanation for all those things that doesn't violate the laws of physics and doesn't imply worldwide destruction.

5/2/2009 6:33:50 AM

#949926

Philbert McAdamia

Hovind#The_Hovind_Theory

Haha - Only a theory.

Or how about Not even a theory?

5/2/2009 7:07:56 AM

#1067015

a REAL scientist.

12/6/2009 1:08:26 PM

#1278212

Rapax Pringer

>Kent Hovind
>real scientist

Much like Cirno is a real math teacher.

4/13/2011 3:49:18 AM

#1278222

Anon2

Evolutionists, what is your answer for how the mammoths got frozen in place?

If the mammoths got frozen in place, which they did, it couldn't have happened gradually. They would have decomposed. But they got frozen practically in place and instantly. This raises suspicion.

I skip over the nonsense of your "icy meteor", and I ask directly:

How does this disprove evolution?

Your "argument" is the same nonsense as for example "I had toast this morning for breakfast; therefore Bill Gates didn't buy a toyota car."

Classical "Non sequitur".

4/13/2011 4:00:50 AM

#1278274

Canadiest

Funny he links to Wikipedia instead of YEC. Wikipedia exposes Hovind as an uneducated fundie who uses long debunked creationist nonsense and misrepresentations of real science.

Really cold water stops biological decomposition and organisms that feed in such low temps are rare. They could have froze in the open air of an oncoming ice age too.

There are certainly logical scenarios to go to before commiting oneself to outrageously batshit insane theories.

4/13/2011 5:54:33 AM

#1278319

Anon-e-moose

"Here is an explanation from a REAL scientist."

So, I guess that's the reason why Richard Dawkins is doing a ten-stretch (and his cellmate Bubba - as well as the rest of the cellblock - is stretching his arsehole!) for not paying his taxes, and Kent Hovind is currently free as a bird, going about his lawful business, as he pays his taxes.

(*Smacks forehead*)

...oh yes, that's right; how silly of me?! I always get those two mixed up: It's Professor Dawkins who is the one free to go about his lawful business - as he always pays his dues to H.M. Inland Revenue, and 'Dr.' (via a diploma mill) Hovind who was caught not Rendering unto Caesar - as every good Christian is ordered to in the Bible - thus was cuffed & stuffed by the IRS, ergo him doing ten in the pen. And getting his daily arserapings by Bubba & co. (PROTIP: As an American, he should know the score; it's his fault he's in jail - where rape is the national sport - not mine. Just in case anyone brings up the subject)

In conclusion: Those fundies (like Kentypoos) who fall foul of the law - least of all the IRS - as a result expose themselves as hypocrites. Therefore, whatever they say has no right to be considered credible in any way, shape or form. They forfeit, in perpetuity, the right to be even listened to, never mind what they say to be acknowledged by anyone.

As with Ted Faggard, Kent Hovind deserves - for the rest of his life - to be a nobody. Irrelevant. But then, even before his conviction, anything he said had absolutely no relevance to anything. And therefore had no right to be accepted, never mind 'believed', by anyone.

Moral: Hubris. Can be such an evil bitch when she wants to be eh, fundies?!

>:D

@Rapax Pringer

">Kent Hovind
>real scientist

Much like Cirno is a real math teacher."

Even "Touhou"'s resident Ice Fairy* can look at Kentypoos, and - without fear of contradiction - say about him (whilst pointing and laughing), 'Look at that baka.'

X3 (9)

Here's a riddle that even Cirno would figure out immediately: 'What do you get for free, via not doing something, that other men can only get by having to do so?

A clue for free, Kentypoos: Two words: Jimmy Swaggart.

*- For the uninitiated:

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Cirno

4/13/2011 7:44:17 AM

#1278488

whatever

..."Also, the remnants flew out into space and created the polar caps of Mars and the icy rings of Saturn"...

Sounds reasonable to me.

4/13/2011 4:45:19 PM

#1278539

anti-nonsense

I still can't believe that people still think Kent Hovind is a trustworthy source when he is *in jail* for lying. How dense do you have to be?

4/13/2011 11:26:22 PM

#1278540

Justanotheratheist

I thought this might be a poe, until I got to the Kent Hovind bit. Then it hit me - the idiot actually believes this.

No wonder they don't see anything odd about talking snakes and global floods and all that crapola.

4/13/2011 11:32:00 PM

#1278543

Swede

This sounds like a nine-year-old explaining. Dearie, most mammoths were NOT frozen in place, they decomposed in the normal way.

You can read about Harry Potter on Wikipedia too, ya know. As a matter of fact, I'd take Ms Rowling's word over "Dr" Dino's any day.

Don't you need a degree from a university, a peer-reviewed paper and a doctorate exam, in order to become a REAL scientist?
Buying the certificate from a diploma mill doesn't count, you have to do the hard work yourself.
Being thrown in prison for fraud is not a merit for a REAL scientist, in case you were wondering.

4/13/2011 11:53:31 PM

#1364754

Sentry Gun

You can't find an actual site ?

I can't find an actual scientist that would back-up your theory.

Seriously. If Kent Hovind was to state that the sky is blue, it would instantly turn orange.

1/9/2012 7:30:26 AM

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