Is contraception right?... all types are wrong! Even before conception and teh baby is alive, you are preventing what would have become a life! God meant for a baby to be born, another soul for Heaven, and you are stopping Him!... If someone doesn't want a baby (for unselfish reasons), there are better ways to take care of it. Obviously, you could not have sex at all.
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Of course, you realize that by this "logic" any sperm not ejaculated into a fertile, human, female's vagina is wrong. Plus, this would make menstruation wrong as a potential life is lost as the unfertized egg is expelled.
Bookluver states "If someone doesn't want a baby (for unselfish reasons), there are better ways to take care of it." Better ways? What ways would those be?
If your god wants me to have a baby he can damn well reach inside and make it happen. 'Twould truly be a miracle, but if I am mistaken about the universe's ambient goddiness I sure hope they don't do it to make their point. I would not appreciate it.
Really, how could a mere human thwart an all-powerful being's will?
But that means any time you aren't having sex, you are preventing what could be a life. Sinner.
I never get the anti-contraception thing anyway. If God is so powerful surely he can get around contraception. The pill is what 99% effective? So he's omnipotent but can't buck those odds?
"...and you are stopping Him!"
If I can thwart the will of God with a sheath of latex, he doesn't deserve my prayers
So, following your logic, menstruation is murder. Or conception, for that matter. What about the rest of the spermatozoa who are going to die anyway?
"God meant for a baby to be born, another soul for Heaven, and you are stopping Him!..."
Then why did god set up a system where only the tiniest fraction of potential people that can exist are given the chance to live.
How many fuckin' people does God want with him anyway?
And study some basic biology. Most sperm will never become a human being, no matter where you aim it.
If God is omnipotent, he can surely work around a condom or a pessary.
He would not have allowed them to be invented if he wanted to stop us from having recreational sex.
Or, he doesn't care what we do.
Or, he does not exist.
A book-lover ought to know how to spell "lover". It's sad that there might be 12 book-lovers on that forum, who dont' know how to spell.
This must be a Poe! Surely. Please?
Is contraception right? That depends on whether you want to have a baby now or not. As to condoms, it also depends on you wanting to be able to have a baby later in life, or if you are willing to risk STDs that might make you sterile.
Before conception there is nothing. One egg cell somewhere in the oviducts and one sperm cell in a testicle. How is those two "teh baby is alive"?
If God meant for a baby to be born, he can surely use his omnipotence to circumvent a condom, a pill or a diaphragm.
"If someone doesn't want to get fat, there are better ways to take care of it. Obviously, you could not eat at all."
Yeah, that's gonna work. If God wanted sex to be used for procreation only, he should have created it less pleasurable.
Edit. Damn it. I had already answered this once. Oh well...
By this logic, Every male who doesn't rape every female several times every month, and every female who doesn't take fertility pills to have more babies, and doesn't take other precautions to increase the number of females produced so they can have more babies, is a sinner. So everyone will go to hell.
To summarize, your all-powerful skyfairy, source of all that is, maker of worlds and eraser of nations,he who sets the sun in it's path....cannot overcome a simple barrier like a condom?
You'd think if he was really against contraception, he'd make sperm move at the speed of sound or something.
And you worship this guy because.....?
Is contraception right?... all types are wrong! [...] God meant for a baby to be born, another soul for Heaven, and you are stopping Him!
History shows that when contraception was outlawed, this normally translated into:
"Our beloved dictator meant for a baby to be born, another soldier as cannon-fodder for his troops, and you are stopping him!"
If bookluver12 is in fact aged 12 and proudly declares him or herself as a book lover, then I don't feel inclined to write any putdowns. Unless of course s/he identifies as a lover of The Book, in which case I suggest s/he learns to read somewhat more widely and more critically before running the risk of becoming a teenage parent.
For clarity's sake, I should point out that I haven't been 23 for fucking decades.
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