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Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District

Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District was a case in Pennsylvania challenging the inclusion of a one-minute presentation on Intelligent design to precede the evolution curriculum, and the inclusion of "Of Pandas and People" in public school libraries. The court ruled that the statement was unconstitutional and that Intelligent Design was not science.

The Discovery Institute has argued that the decision was incorrect and that the judge had no right or ability to rule on what was science. Furthermore, the Discovery Institute has recently found that the judge who ruled in it, federal judge John E. Jones, quoted verbatim the main section of the overwhelmingly biased court decision from a document written by ACLU lawyers. This was John E. Jones time to act like a judge and rule based on his enforcement of the Constitution. What he did was cow-tow to liberal organizations such as the ACLU, and effectively submit to the evolutionary scientific establishment.

CreationWiki, CreationWiki 43 Comments [2/21/2009 7:11:19 AM]
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Guess what? John E. Jones thinks Lamarckian evolution is scientific.

2/21/2009 7:13:39 AM


....and even the Republicunt judge that was appointed by George W. Bush ruled against your pseudoscientific trash.

2/21/2009 7:25:59 AM


Can't defend your beliefs in a courtroom? Ad-hominem away!

FYI: It's 'kowtow'.

2/21/2009 7:43:59 AM


They could not have found a more right wing judge and they still goddamn lost.

Says something about how convincing ID is and how real scientists can actually stand up in court and back their assertions. Unlike the dumbasses who went to bat for ID.

2/21/2009 7:57:24 AM


You mean that liberal organization, American Civil Liberties Union, which supports your right to spout bullshit and harass people with your religious tripe? You should be grateful for them, but you still do everything you can to demonize those who protect your right to be batshit insane.

And according to the definitions of science, no sane person would rule that ID qualifies. It's not falsifiable, it's not supported by evidence, but rather by attempting to point flaws in evolution, and it's clearly descended from the Christian creation myth. It is religion in the worst possible way and it has no business being taught or mentioned, let alone given validity, in publicly funded schools.

2/21/2009 8:06:39 AM

"overwhelmingly biased court decision"

You mean one you don't agreee with. A decision is a decision.

2/21/2009 8:13:38 AM

Somebody call a WAH-mbulance!

2/21/2009 8:51:05 AM


2/21/2009 9:05:04 AM


I think that site is just one big Poe.

At least, that's what I'm hoping, because nobody can be that fucking knuckle-draggingly stupid, right?

2/21/2009 9:05:39 AM



Then take the blue pill and believe whatever you want to believe. It'll help you sleep at night.

Or stay on FSTDT and see how deep the rabbit-hole goes...

2/21/2009 9:27:19 AM


Creationism doesn't follow the scientific method and gets fucked in the butt by occam's razor.

It's a bad hypothesis, and it's not even a theory.

2/21/2009 9:41:52 AM


I see you guys are still trying to rip off conservapedia. And that makes this twice as pathetic.

2/21/2009 9:41:52 AM


you jacknifed your bovine?

2/21/2009 10:18:21 AM


Having read all 139 pages of the judges decision carefully I must say...YOU STUPID BASTARDS GOT PWNED!!!

Errhmm...as I was saying it was a concise and well reasoned argument against ID that cited numerous precedent cases in ruling...THAT ID IS JUST FRAUDULENT PRETEND SCIENCE YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR ASS!

Urrr...uhh, anyway the judge ruled that ID was not science and also found that many of the witnesses for the school board had been less than thruthful. In fact he said that...YOU CREATIONISTS/ID SUPPORTERS WERE LIEING SACKS OF SHIT. NO SURPRISE THERE, BUT THIS TIME YOU TRIED IT IN FRONT OF A JUDGE, IDIOTS!

Sooo...he said they were purposefully trying to mislead the court.

Uh ohh, my fundie tourettes is back again. :(

2/21/2009 10:21:59 AM


How about this for a conspiracy:

There's actually an American that doesn't suffer stupid due to creation peer pressure.

2/21/2009 10:54:55 AM


Stop trying to spin what happened you lying fundtard.

After years of trying to get your creationist bullshit shoved into schools via the legal system making a decision in your favor, you get your asses handed to you and now you claim the court has no right to decide because they decided against you.

Never mind that the plaintiffs lied under oath about where the stupid Pandas books came from. Never mind the fact that the Discover Institute chickened out and didn't show up for the battle. And never mind the fact that Mikey Behe the closest thing you idiots have to a real scientist on your side got beaten like a rented mule on the stand.

You fucking lost, a Bush appointed conservative judge called you on your lying and your bullshit creationism.

Now sit down and shut up the rest of us are trying to have a civilization here.

2/21/2009 11:32:05 AM

Seriously, take a civics class, people. The judge WAS ruling based on the constitution. It's called separation of church and state.

2/21/2009 11:55:40 AM


The Discovery Institute was asked to provide witnesses. They chickened out. Gutless wonders and lying bastards.

2/21/2009 11:57:44 AM


And the lies continue.

2/21/2009 12:48:29 PM

Mister Spak

"The Discovery Institute has argued that the decision was incorrect and that the judge had no right or ability to rule on what was science."

Better look in the mirror before you say that.

2/21/2009 1:16:52 PM

Jack Bauer

'Cow tow'?

Sounds a bit bovine...

Of course - your comment is bullshit!

2/21/2009 1:19:37 PM


Aesop says: Grumbling about sour grapes and $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. LOSER!

2/21/2009 2:07:27 PM


If only ID pushers had some Intelligence instead of just thinking they can bullshit everyone.
If only you'd get off that kick of thinking the Bible's a book of wisdom and knowledge.

2/21/2009 2:21:32 PM

Jasper Spotty-Butt

So the fanatical religious fundamentalists still continue to spread their malicious lies. And there ain't even a god anyway, so it's all a waste of time.

2/21/2009 2:31:57 PM


I don't mind, just stay there in states and we will be just fine.

2/21/2009 2:54:29 PM

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