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Immutability is not harmed by artificial breeding. Immutability refers to species that exist in the undisturbed wild. Wherever a new species is found----that is where it was introduced by a direct act of special
creation ex materia. There is no other way for species to appear.

Ray Martinez, talk.origins 26 Comments [2/21/2009 7:09:19 AM]
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dpareja

Excuses, excuses...

2/21/2009 7:12:38 AM

Orion

talk about your reaching. Just give it up, you're wrong, we may not be right, but we can be sure that you lot aren't.

I knew when I was 10 that no person living 2000+ years ago figured out the meaning of life and what was out in the great beyond! It was obvious because I realised how stupid people are today and thought that people 2000+ years ago must have been more ignorant by many factors of 10.

2/21/2009 8:00:14 AM

anonymous

Marijuana + vague understanding of the quantum observer effect = ??? + PROFIT!

2/21/2009 8:06:38 AM

Thinking Allowed

huh?

2/21/2009 8:29:44 AM

someone from a different planet

So immutability exists when we're not looking?

That is to say, evolution is only happening when scientists are looking?

What is this, your god's way to trick scientists?

2/21/2009 8:36:40 AM

solomongrundy

Just Google 'ring species' and you'll see a fatal error in your argument.

2/21/2009 9:31:22 AM

aaa

Oh, for fucks sake.

2/21/2009 9:40:07 AM

Thammuz

Sure, sure, whatevr you say.

Seriously, if you believe in this shit you should be prevented from procreating...

2/21/2009 9:47:42 AM

ausador

[Fundie psuedo-science traslator engaged]

Immutability is not harmed by artificial breeding.

God and the species he created never, ever, change except when man selectively breeds them, but this does not change the fact that this never happens in the wild.

Immutability refers to species that exist in the undisturbed wild.

You can't prove a species that you have never watched, studied, tested, taken samples from, or otherwise disturbed has changed can you? Well?, can you? See I'm right!

Wherever a new species is found----that is where it was introduced by a direct act of special
creation ex materia. There is no other way for species to appear.


Any time you discover a new species it is because God just created it there for you to find. See Goddidit!

[Fundie psuedo-science translator disengaged]

Whew...glad thats over with, I thought I was going to be sick. :(


2/21/2009 9:54:49 AM

Psittacosis

Ah, it's my old mate Ray. Written that paper that will finally prove special creation and make every 'Darwinist's' life a nightmare, yet? No? You surprise me.

Ray is nuts even by creationist standards (he's been banned off both CARM and Conservapedia) and believes things that no other human has ever believed. Such as that the late televangelist Gene Scott (look him up, he was a hoot) was the greatest scholar who ever lived.

2/21/2009 10:59:19 AM

anevilmeme

Right and all the fossil evidence was an act of special creation too.

2/21/2009 11:34:00 AM

????

No...

2/21/2009 12:20:57 PM

Mister Spak

Unless they evolve.

2/21/2009 1:20:08 PM

breakerslion

"There is no other way for species to appear."

So, instead of environmental factors leading to instinct and physical change, some kind of space-time vortex opens up and out pops a rabbit, or a lemur, or a giant squid? Okay....

What exactly do you mean by, "undisturbed wild?" You need to take a walk in the rain forest, or the Australian Outback. See how long you last before being disturbed by something nasty. Stop getting your ideas about nature from watching Wally Gator cartoons.

2/21/2009 2:24:29 PM

Pule Thamex

So what, you are going to be convinced with logic, reason and science? I don't think so. So one must conclude that you are an illogical, unreasonable, anti-scientific jerk. Furthermore, you are a gullible simpleton.

2/21/2009 2:35:46 PM

Lulzmonger

Logic, there is none.

2/21/2009 3:17:48 PM

Giveitaday

Wherever a new species is found----that is where it was introduced by a direct act of special creation ex materia. There is no other way for species to appear.

I take it that you have observed this "special creation ex materia" directly? If the answer is no then you can't make that as a definitive statement, just as an assertion lacking evidence and/or factual basis.

In words you can understand: "It happened that way because I said so, and I am right because skydaddy said I am. I am, I am, i am right!!! Why won't you just believe everything I tell you too??? My skydaddy will kick your ass... then you'll see"

2/21/2009 3:50:53 PM

Reckoner

Ray, shouldn't you be off writing that paper that you promised everyone 5 years ago?

2/21/2009 7:20:01 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

You failed Biology class, didn't you?

2/21/2009 8:13:15 PM

pete

Two words:

Invasive species.

2/21/2009 8:27:58 PM

Antichrist

The only way we found out the Pizzly bear existed was because somebody shot one. This is an adaptation to global warming, which doesn't exist.

Coyotes have developed into 3 subspecies over the last 300 years. Yes, it was because of man, but not because of artificial breeding. We killed off the wolves giving them an inroad to that niche, and built cities where they can live in our back alleys.

Those are just two species that I can think of off hand.

2/21/2009 10:21:58 PM

Old Viking

Fundy science is a classic example of immutability.

2/22/2009 12:15:51 AM

QT

Lenski would like a word with you.

2/22/2009 1:52:35 AM

a mind far far away

Massive science fail.

2/22/2009 3:30:21 AM

John_in_Oz

So nature can't do what man can easily do. Oh-kay. And what prevents it? God has to perform a special miracle every time nature's breeding would resemble man's?

2/22/2009 2:41:01 PM
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