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Science tells us our body renews all its cells every 7 years. If we were only our body we would have to relearn everything again because all of our knowledge is contained in the physical aspect of man. But this again is not so, even the bible shows people who died in heaven remembering and recognizing others.

Sing4Him, Rapture Ready 68 Comments [2/21/2009 9:56:13 PM]
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mike-mike

Wait... what?

2/21/2009 9:58:10 PM

Mike

Wut?

2/21/2009 9:58:44 PM

aaa

What is going on down there?

2/21/2009 9:59:35 PM

COVIZAPIBETEFOKY

Because, the knowledge is inside the cells, and not in they way they are arranged in your brain.

Edit: I am ignorant on the topic. I suppose I should have kept my mouth shut (erm... should that be... comment... uncommented?)

2/21/2009 10:03:41 PM

booley

citation please?

Because I already know that brain cells do not get renewed. You start off with all the ones you will ever have.

Apparently in Sing4Him's case, he got short changed

2/21/2009 10:04:24 PM

LDM

Huh?

2/21/2009 10:07:14 PM

demodocos

So, when I over the course of two years completely replaced every single part of my computer with newer parts, copying all the data on a new hard disk drive before I trashed the old one, I proved that computers have souls?

2/21/2009 10:08:16 PM

Eden

If you had a little knowledge about regenerative biology you would know that not all types of cells regularly renews.
The CNS doesn´t renew. It can build new synaptic connections (and therefore learn and also partially replace losses of neural functions due to accidents/diseases [by other brain regions taking over functiions from the destroyed region/s]). The generation of totally new neurons (in the CNS of postnatal organisms) on the other hand is limited and rather the exception than the rule.
That´s why embryonal stem cell research is so important, as it might provide cures for neurodegenerative diseases (because embryos still have the ability to generate new neurons)

2/21/2009 10:08:51 PM



"But this again is not so, even the bible shows people who died in heaven remembering and recognizing others."

The Bible is a shitty source for any information.

2/21/2009 10:27:18 PM

Panz

brain cells do not regenerate fucker, learn your science before you claim to know it

2/21/2009 10:30:09 PM

enna

Lol!!!

Except for brain cells! That's why brain damage is irreversable! Brain cells don't regenerate!

2/21/2009 10:32:20 PM

anti-nonsense

the cells in the brain are never replaced for one thing.

Also, the bible is not a science textbook.

2/21/2009 10:36:09 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

"Science tells us our body renews all its cells every 7 years."

WHAT THE FUCK?!

2/21/2009 10:43:43 PM

avatar

Biology fail. Central nervous system is not renewed. After it stops growing, the cells you have are all you will ever have. That's the problem with brain injuries, after all: Brain can not recreate damaged sections. It can only bridge over them at best, and that is not perfect.

Thus, as it is the case, almost always, with these types, it is again "It Does Not Work That Way" time.

2/21/2009 10:45:37 PM

dpareja

How does a fundie's brain cell die? Alone.
What do you call a fundie with two brain cells? Pregnant.

2/21/2009 10:49:19 PM



That's just your skin, stupid, not your brain and everything.

2/21/2009 10:54:00 PM

Old Viking

One brain per customer. I'm in a good mood so I won't comment further,

2/21/2009 11:02:43 PM

Affine Connection

Will my dead cat be there?

2/21/2009 11:07:26 PM

Ajax

Brain cells don't regenerate and even if they did cells regenerate by copying themselves, so there's no reason they wouldn't keep the information. They don't actually die, they split up. Eventually all cells stop dividing due to the Hayflick Limit, which is what causes many of the degenerative effects of aging. That's because the telomeres shrink with each division. All we need to do is fix that and find out how to replace dying brain cells(and doctors did recently transplant brain cells to a stroke victim) and we would have an indefinite lifespan, but since science is teh ebil I'm sure all the fundies wont be taking advantage of it and the world will be better off without them.

2/21/2009 11:11:19 PM

Classic

I'd heard through a popular press article there was some evidence for the CNS regenerating in some cases, i.e. a comatose patient recovered and seemed to have regrown "gray matter" (used non-technically here).

Was this bunk/false memory?

2/21/2009 11:56:18 PM

Lila

I would laugh at this, only I have a 22 year old son who, when admonished to perhaps cut back a wee tad on his drinking, informed me that the liver regenerates itself every 24 hours...

Thank you Fordham University. I want my $200K back, please...

2/22/2009 12:00:39 AM

Idgas

PUT the crack pipe down!

2/22/2009 12:14:11 AM

Observable Reality

It sounds like someone heard about the ship of Theseus in between hits of horse.

2/22/2009 12:21:53 AM



Brain cells don't regenerate.
People die in heaven? I thought they were supposed to live forever in total bliss.
If the people who died in heaven are also dead on Earth, then how the hell can they remember anything?

Oh, I get it...zombies.

Brains...braaiinnnss

2/22/2009 12:23:19 AM

Rat of Steel

(Ajax)
"All we need to do is fix that and find out how to replace dying brain cells(and doctors did recently transplant brain cells to a stroke victim) and we would have an indefinite lifespan, but since science is teh ebil I'm sure all the fundies wont be taking advantage of it, and the world will be better off without them."


Oh, man, Ajax. The fundies won't just avoid using such technology; they'll fight tooth and nail to stop it from ever seeing the light of day. As will the non-fundie theists, for that matter, and even a few non-believers.

Why, one might ask? Simple: the fear of death is, far and away, the thing people in control of others can most easily exploit when controlling said others, from a fire-and-brimstone preacher with his small flock of two dozen or so, to the people who are the powers behind the various heads of State throughout the entire world.

If this death-denying technology becomes common scientific knowledge...well, would you play in a Bridge game where, after your bid wins and you're ready to start capturing tricks, you had to hand the Ace of the Trump suit to one of your opponents in exchange for the Deuce of a non-Trump suit? Neither would those in power over the world. It'd take an underground revolution of the kind shown at the climax of Johnny Mnemonic for such knowledge to ever have a chance.

(BTW, no, the bittersweet irony inherent in the analogy of an atheist possibly being the one who's guarding the back door to the Garden of Eden to keep the Tree of Life off-limits is not lost on me.)

2/22/2009 12:25:59 AM
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