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Okay. A few points.

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman. Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family.

Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.

[posts two links, one to a Newsweek article and one to, get this, "Mormon Times" - sure sounds like an unbiased doesn't it?]

This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"

Dark Tyranitar, The Cave of Dragonflies 49 Comments [2/23/2009 3:23:42 PM]
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Doctor Whom

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman.

Ever hear of two-spirit people?

Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.

That, and all of the legal rights that come with marriage.

This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"

Choose to change your sexual orientation for a week. Then come back and tell us how it went.

2/23/2009 3:26:10 PM

aaa

Oh great, somebody opened the crazy can.

2/23/2009 3:27:36 PM

HoJuSimpson

1950:

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman of the same race. Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family pure to their skin color.

Interracial coupled people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.

This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all interracials should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only interracials cannot control their racial attraction behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"

2/23/2009 3:30:05 PM

Wondershock

Uh, you guys, you're quoting a 13 year old kid.

As far as I am concerned, anyone under 15 writing this kind of shit is equivalent to a Poe. They don't have the capacity to truly know what they believe yet.

2/23/2009 3:31:06 PM



Uh, Wondershock, I'm guessing you were never raised in a fundie family. Heh.

2/23/2009 3:36:16 PM

anonymous

"Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family."

So? The other half is to steal someone's money.

"They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'."

Yeah, and Macs do all the same things as Windows or Linux computers.
Just because I hate them doesn't make them not computers.

2/23/2009 3:36:20 PM



Protip: Just because it's called "homosexuality" doesn't mean its only about the sex.

2/23/2009 3:40:45 PM

blackgem

I'll do you a deal. You can keep the term marriage, as long as what you give me is in every possible legal way equal to marriage, with the same rights, protections, legal benefits and agreements.

It's deal done in most European countries and it's working quite well for us. In Scandinavia (Sweden I think), now everyone's gotten used to the idea, the government is looking at quietly passing a legislation to bring the two together under the same name since they are equal in practice, and thus tidy up the legislation a bit.

2/23/2009 3:44:28 PM

Thammuz

Ah, so you have to force yourself not to have buttsex?

How peculiar, i don't need to control myself...

2/23/2009 3:47:08 PM

John

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman.

For most of that time, it was defined to be between a man and a woman of the same race. History isn't necessarily a good model for what's right.

all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices.

In the US for 2005, 37% of all births were to unmarried women. If we count abortions, the percentage of conceptions is probably even higher. Who says "only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior"?

2/23/2009 3:50:26 PM

Oy Vey!




They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.

Well, we hope to change that.

2/23/2009 3:51:02 PM

D Laurier

"First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman."
Since when?
Historicly marriage has been defined as a treaty between two ruling familys

"Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family."
Nope. Its to allow rival kingdoms to co-exist peacefully.

2/23/2009 3:56:59 PM



Uh-huh, I see what you did there. No.

2/23/2009 3:58:16 PM

Panz

"First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman."
Man and multiple women, read yer holy book

"Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'. "
And don't have will rights, can't be with the other on visitation rights, can't gain tax benefits, etc.

"This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'" "

I assume you and the author are misreading this as a choice to engage in sex and not who to engage in sex with. They can't find the opposite sex attractive as much as you find the same sex attractive

2/23/2009 3:59:30 PM

Epic Wolf

Homosexuals are less than human, you say? YOu know who else called other humans 'less than humans'? Godwin. Also, citation needed for the claims in that biased qoute.

How dare you sully the name of Tyranitar with your bigoted fundie idiocy.

2/23/2009 3:59:37 PM

Dan Onymous

So you're happy with them having all the same rights, you just don't want the word 'marriage' used? How about calling it a Civil Partnership then?

2/23/2009 4:00:24 PM

JonnyTruant

So Mr. Mormon who wrote that article quoted here, and dude who follows, you have the choice about who or what you are attracted to? So you can choose to be sexually attracted to a person of the same sex if you wanted? I don't think I could get it up for a dude, so I'm pretty impressed with you. I'm straight and can't help being attracted to women. My ex-wife is bi, but she's very selective about who she's with and a serial monogamist. And one of my ex-roommates is a lesbian who gets repulsed at the thought of weiners.

I don't think any of us chose who we are, but we must be the best ourselves we can. Your attempts to pass laws restricting our freedom to do that is cruel and selfish to an extreme degree. They don't want to change you and they don't want to limit or harm you. Go be free to be who you are, and leave others to be as they are--that is the most human thing you can do.

2/23/2009 4:04:54 PM

Xotan

And you consciously chose to be heterosexual exactly when?

As to gays being less than human, I doubt if people like Julius Caesar, Shakespeare Leonadro da Vinci, Michelangelo Buonarotti, etc, etc, could be considered less than human. Your ignorance, however, might well qualify you for that appellation.

2/23/2009 4:06:23 PM

GreenEyedLilo

Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do.

Yes, and your side has consistently tried to prevent these things every single step of the way.

Go fuck yourself with an immersion blender.

2/23/2009 4:16:04 PM

NotThere

"Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'."

So why not just let them have the legal right to consider it "marriage" and be done with it?

"This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"

So...that person's opinion is supposed to end the discussion or something? It doesn't.

2/23/2009 4:24:42 PM

????

Blahblahblahblahblah, all the usual antigay crap.

2/23/2009 4:53:11 PM

Doug

I'll believe that's your reasoning as soon as fundies start campaigning to limit marriage to fertile people.

2/23/2009 4:53:47 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Okay. A few points.

*SIGH*

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman. Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family.

Since when do humans require a license to have children? The definition of marriage has changed back and forth and sideways every 3 hundred years or so. Besides, WHO GIVES A FUCK what other people think "true" marriage is. Unmarried humans have ZERO problems founding a family, unless the fundies go in and purposefully ruin their life because they dont have the proper paperwork (and beliefs)

Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.

Yeah, they can do some of that stuff now that they have fought and sometimes died for those rights. funny how quickly you forget that it was the Christians oppressing the homosexuals all this time. Some of them cant even visit their partners of over 40 years in hospital because of hateful Christians like yourself get wind that there is a gay couple in the hospital and go out of your way to make them as uncomfortable and unwelcome as possible. Marriage rights will stop this hatred, and that is why you are against it, because you want the government to support your hate.

This article says it all. An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices. This dogma implies that they are less than human. Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"

The Mormons? Last time I checked you evangelicals thought they were hellbound cultists.. but now since they spent so much money hating gays then they are okay? By the way, the church of LDS is NOT a reliable source on modern homosexual views and knowledge. They are still in the fucking bronze age when it comes to cosmology and science.

2/23/2009 5:02:18 PM

Illuminatalie

Remember the goat/sheep thing!

2/23/2009 5:16:28 PM

GigaGuess

First, marriage through the ages has been defined to be between a man and a woman. Half the point of marriage is so that people can found a family.
No, actually it was defined as a man and as many wives, concubines and mistresses as he could afford. And it may have been the foundation to build a family, but there are a couple things you're forgetting:
1.) Not everyone who marries is capable of, or willing to start breeding like crazy. Are we going to deny them marriage, too?
2.) Families come in many different shapes and sizes. Many homosexuals are willing to start families, via surrogacy or adoption. Three guesses on who the ones impeding us are.

Homosexual people can live in the same house, have sexual intercourse with each other, and do most, if not all, other things that married couples can do. They only lack the right to call it 'marriage'.
So by your own admission, we are the same as you guys, save for the ability to bark out litters one after another. So why should our relationships not be legally recognized?

This article says it all.
The Mormon Times. Yeah, no bias there... -_-

An excerpt: "In my opinion, all homosexuals should be enraged at the notion that of all human beings, only homosexuals cannot control their sexual behavior by conscious choices.
Oh, so you can choose to be gay? Do it then. Be gay. Show this poor, misguided homosexual how it's done.

This dogma implies that they are less than human.
No, you guys imply we're less than "human." Or rather, you put yourselves above us lowly humans, in that you see yourself above such filthy urges as sex.

Yet this is precisely what the normalizers claim: 'They can't help it.'"
No, they say we are the way we are, and any effort to fight that is inherently harmful. It's not a "boys will be boys" stance, it's the fact that trying to make us repress what we are, with no good reason, no less, does us no good whatsoever, and in fact, can cause serious psychological damage. Proof? Look at the ex-gay suicide statistics.

2/23/2009 5:17:33 PM
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