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[Are seldom actual scientists. Or at least not scientists who work within the relevant disciplines. Most actual scientists agree that evolution is scientific.]

The 'scientists' you refer to in the quoted text are darwinists, not actual scientists. They may slap a misnomer 'scientist' label onto themselves, but they are certainly not scientists. Scientists obey the scientific method. darwinists, like the ones you refer to in the quoted text, do not.

[How often do you find biologists (and with no strong underlying religious motivations, only scientific ones) coming out against evolution and for creationism/ID? ]

All the darwinists you refer to support darwinism solely because darwinism is their religion and they have underlying religious motivations to zealously spread propaganda to promote their faith-based opinions about it to the exclusion of all other points of view, and suppress all other points of view. The people you are referring to are doing exactly the thing you complain about in the quoted text: coming out against creationism/ID due to their underlying religious motivations.

Navaros, imdb 31 Comments [2/25/2009 11:34:29 PM]
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#914119
Katsuro

This is what a conversation with a brick wall would be like, only more retarded.

2/25/2009 11:35:54 PM

#914122
The Lazy One

Is it opposite day or something?

2/25/2009 11:38:44 PM

#914129
atrasicarius


2/25/2009 11:45:45 PM

#914133
Devonian

"All the darwinists you refer to support darwinism solely because darwinism is their religion and they have underlying religious motivations to zealously spread propaganda to promote their faith-based opinions about it to the exclusion of all other points of view, and suppress all other points of view."
Projecting much?

2/25/2009 11:49:40 PM

#914136
atheist crusader

funnily enough 99% of biologists (myself included) aggree with darwins theory of evolution, and guess what they have PhDs and everything.

we dont agree with creation because it is total bollocks are you telling me that genetics is wrong. Evolution is not faith based but based on pure scientific evidence

you sir are a fucking imbecille

2/25/2009 11:52:52 PM

#914139
tracer

"Scientists obey the scientific method. darwinists, like the ones you refer to in the quoted text, do not."


Which part of the scientific method is someone who accepts biological evolution not obeying? The part that says "reject the hypothesis a priori if it contradicts scripture"?

2/25/2009 11:56:32 PM

#914142
JonathanE

Someone please administer the clue bat. Profusely.

2/25/2009 11:57:45 PM

#914143
Nate!

Luckily there's Navaros on hand to set us all straight on what constitutes good science.

2/26/2009 12:30:31 AM

#914145
a mind far far away

The 'scientists' you refer to in the quoted text are darwinists, not actual scientists. They may slap a misnomer 'scientist' label onto themselves, but they are certainly not scientists. Scientists obey the scientific method. darwinists, like the ones you refer to in the quoted text, do not.

Since sounds suspiciously like fundy creationists. They conveniently call themselves scientists in order to try to get their religious doctrines pushed onto people who don't want it. And you have conveniently called real scientists "darwinists" in some way to try to get the idea in peoples heads that evolution is somehow a religion or a religious philosphy, for the sole purpose of trying to discredit it, because you can't stand the fact that reality shows your beliefs for what they are; nonsense. This is deceitful, dishonest, lying, and is something your religion nor common sense morality would agree to. So you are fucked whichever way you look, simply because you can't escape your fairy tale beliefs. Get a life, get a brain, and stop cheating yourself out of life. If you refuse, then fine, but fuck off and leave rational, realistic people alone.

2/26/2009 12:34:46 AM

#914148
John

The vast majority of biologists pretty much ignore creationists and go on with their work. They don't have time to bother arguing with religious fanatics.

2/26/2009 12:37:54 AM

#914163
The Jamo

Which scientific, empirical piece of evidence is your point of view based on?

2/26/2009 12:50:01 AM

#914165
Pule Thamex

Inane.

2/26/2009 12:50:45 AM

#914182
TheDoc

*clang clang clang* POT & KETTLE BRIGADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *clang clang clang*

2/26/2009 1:13:10 AM

#914186
Old Viking

The vast, vast majority of biologists and geneticists throughout the world base their work on the Theory of Evolution. Only religious whackos like yourself favor the totally unscientific creationism/ID.

2/26/2009 1:14:52 AM

#914194
philosophia

...if s/he uses the term "darwinist" one more time, I may have to shoot something.

2/26/2009 1:19:40 AM

#914236
fmitchell

Nae true scientist?

As in, nae true scientist is a carbon-based biped?

2/26/2009 2:07:57 AM

#914247
Ambrielle

No-one will never, ever, ever get through to these people.

2/26/2009 2:19:04 AM

#914312
QT

Damn, it seems I've stumbled through a portal to opposite world again. That's the second time today.

2/26/2009 3:21:23 AM

#914313
szaleniec

This guy is one of the reasons I leave the Expelled board on IMDB well alone. A purer example of Ferrous Cranus you're unlikelier to meet.

2/26/2009 3:23:11 AM

#914358
Antichrist

Can we start something like the Steve project. Something like Christian Scientists for Evolution?

2/26/2009 3:57:22 AM

#914427
szaleniec

@Antichrist: The name might need to be rephrased, but it's a good idea in principle.

2/26/2009 4:57:37 AM

#914522
aaa

My blood is boiling.

2/26/2009 6:22:51 AM

#914582
Psittacosis

There's the Clergy Letter Project. (no time for a link, sorry).

2/26/2009 7:57:52 AM

#914626
Atheist In A Foxhole

S.t.u.p.i.d.

2/26/2009 9:36:47 AM

#914680
anevilmeme

Now that's one big ass shiny mirror.

2/26/2009 10:37:09 AM
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