Cardinal Giovanni Battista #fundie

Cardinal Giovanni Battista #fundie news.bbc.co.uk

A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication in Brazil of the mother and doctors of a young girl who had an abortion with their help.

The nine-year-old had conceived twins after alleged abuse by her stepfather.

Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re told Italian paper La Stampa that the twins "had the right to live" and attacks on Brazil's Catholic Church were unfair.

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old comment by ausador

Well that is nice for us, they just continue to hack away at their own credibility and drive people into our arms.

So tell us Cardinal how a 9 year old female body is supposed to gestat and deliver twins? Ohh...you can't?

Even though the doctors say trying to do so would kill her you ignore that in favor of your theology. She should have carried them until viability outside the womb and then delivered via C-section.

Never mind her doctors statements about the threat to her life, about her never being able to have kids of her choice afterwards, about the irrevocable harm done to her body by the process.

I'm glad your being so irrational and proveing the stupidity of belief in your religion.

Thank you
ausador

old comment by J. Random Lurker

@the idiot cardinal (original post)

You know, I'm a pro-life guy and even I think you're a sadistic asshole who should do the civilised world a favour and die in a fire.

Oh, and by the way, we're not talking about some college girl who got knocked up at a frat party--we're talking a nine year old girl (who presumably is at the start of puberty) being victimised by her stepfather.

And let's see. Doesn't an excommuncation require full knowledge that the sin was wrong and a deliberate choice to make that sin anyway? Furthermore, aren't children, the mentally disabled, the intoxicated, and all of those who are unaware that an action carries a latae sentenciae excommuncation not actually excommunicated ipso facto? Doesn't your own damned canon law make not of these, O asshole cardinal?

@Traveling Hobo

They did--but not until after the ratlines were discovered. (For those who don't know, the Vatican was responsible for smuggling Nazi Party and Ustashi officials out of Allied-occupied Europe at the end and shortly following World War II by giving them false identity papers that they could then use to obtain ICRC visas.)

old comment by Grigadil

Fucking Roman religionists.

Theirs is the Pauline heresy, theirs is the Nicene heresy, theirs is the perverted dogma that has justified many of the worst travesties ever committed, in any time, for any cause.

Theirs is the blame for the bloodiest abominations of Western history. Theirs is the blame for retarding the growth of western civilization for well over a millennium. Theirs is the blame for the destruction of too many cultures and individual genius.

And for what? So some sexless old assholes in frilly dresses and funny hats can brandish their dead-radical-on-a-stick-toy and lecture real people on how to live.

Fucking priests. Either mamas' boys or totally useless fuckwads who can't -- or won't -- hold down a real job. They are losers who presume to rub shoulders with kings and statesmen.

They infect children with fear and guilt and shame, simply for being alive. They rape their favorite altar boys, as a sick initiation into their club.

Bastards.

I want to see, in St Peter's Basilica, a pyramid of all the priestly skulls of this age... bloody, stinking, rotting, unshriven... with the pope's bloody skull perched on top.

old comment by Princess Rot

Hmm. That's what's called backing yourself into an idealogical corner. Stay silent on the subject and be a hypocrite, say something and be a monster.

The twins had a "right to live", my ass. Something sends a shiver down my spine when they say terminating a pregnancy ends an innocent life. And no, it's not about the fetus. Apparently now a raped nine-year-old has been "fouled" she's no longer "innocent" or worthy of protection and like all females, she must birth to be punished for fornicating whether she likes it or not. That she had no choice in the matter has no bearing on the sentence, as it were.

Ugh, I'm going to dark places with this kind of thinking.

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