It's common sense. The frog in the pot. If tomorrow our Congress passed a law blessing pedofilia there would be a national outcry... In a few years we're being told it's normal for some people to be attracted to children. Some scientist comes out and says there is a gene that makes people pedofiles. Study after study is whipped out there to convince us. Dateline and 20/20 have specials on the topic of how some people are just attracted to children. Showing 'relationships that have been going on for years' in a positive light. How sad that these people 'fear' going public. Hollywood and various celebrities scolding us for our intolerance and narrow-mindedness. Then you have comedy shows and movies-of-the-week come out. Next thing you know a law is being passed to 'bless' marriage between adults and children. And finally you have a preacher come out and say he's been secretly married to an 8 year old for 2 years. Then the church will be performing marriages between adults and children...All of this sounds ourtrageous? If it slaps us in the face today- morally we violently reject the idea. But little by little, in drips and drabs over time we become conditioned to accept sins. Disturbing but people better wake up.
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I guess this is supposed to be an argument against samesex-marriages... but paedophilia (as we consider it, where it is MENTAL - not physical - immature people we want to protect) wasn't that frowned upon in the "good old days" (if at all) as today. And [French] court have showed that having a gene for eg violence is no excuse for violent behavior.
Informed. Consent.
That is all.
Surely basing the morality of a sexual relationship on the sexual organs of the people involved and not on adult consent is more likely to result in this state of affairs. Little girls have vaginas, little boys have penises so where's problem ?? They're the opposite sex from us and that's all that matters isn't it ???
The frog in the pot. THE FROG IN THE POT. IT'S COMMON SENSE.
AND WHAT THEN? MARRYING CARS, ROCKS, TREES?
If it's predicted to happen on rapture ready, we can be sure it'll never happen. So that's the good news
This scenario would never play out in a secular, liberal society. More possibility in Religious Dogmatic society
informed consent dipstick.
I don't want to marry in chiurch, I just want the same protections for my partner that marrieds take for granted
First, check your history. Women were married right out of their early teens.
Second, informed consent. If the two parties can't agree, there can't be marriage. (hence, "marrying a dog" argument is FAIL)
Third, fuck off.
Three problems:
-The second half of a pedophile relationship, the child, is inherently not an equal partner and unlikely to be willing to voice a refusal of advances or fully enjoy whatever sex is involved.
-The established psychological harm caused to children.
-The fact that adults marrying children did occur historically and had been abandoned, rather than it being something that has been forbidden for centuries "just because".
Stupid Raptards. Don't they realize that children can't, legally OR psychologically, give consent to sex or marriage? Just because their Bible allows for marriage with little girls doesn't mean that the rest of us condone the same behavior.
Yes, pedofilia is a natural desire in SOME people, these people are also different lack in other areas of social interaction. These studies you people condemn are to understand the root of this deviance, the better to recognize the evil then ignore it (as churchs are wont to do, lot of misreable children swept under church rugs)
Slippery slopes that run against societies laws (an uphill slope) are the least likely. Fundies are always wrong about the world and social constucts as they are about Biblical prophecy. Completely
Informed consent!
Pedophilia harms children, homosexuality is between adults (and adolescents) and harms no-one.
History shows it's the other way around; it WAS OK to marry off kids before they reached puberty, but we now frown upon it.
Blessedx4, you have lost the argument regarding same-sex marriage.
The fact is that every time an opponent of same-sex marriage brings up pedophilia (note the spelling), or bestiality, or necrophilia or marrying inanimate objects, that person is admitting that they do not have a valid argument against same-sex-marriage and that they have to change the subject in order to say something. This is done with the desperate hope that they will provoke a sense of disgust or absurdity in their audience which can then be transferred to the subject of same-sex marriage. The fact is though, anyone who is inclined to be manipulated by such a non-argument is already on your side. Thus this tactic gains you nothing except the feeling like you have done "something" for your cause when, in fact, you haven't.
That's part of why your side is losing.
"The frog in the pot."
And you & your fundie ilk are the turd in the swimming pool that represents the New Normal (think that scene in the film "Caddyshack").
Your point?
Besides, [i]you're[/i] ones to talk, Ruptured Retards. Matthew 7:1, and all that jazz. Therefore, all right-wingers are paedophiles, if you're going along that path with that exremely broad brush of yours, Cursed(couldn'tgivea)XXXX.
Two years ago, this hypothetical 8 year old would be a 6 year old.
And that is why "relationships" (for lack of a better word) for pedophiles and even ephebophiles don't work. Kids grow up.
If your congress passed laws blessing pedophilia, it would be mostly conservative heterosexual Christian men passing that law.
The rest of the country would indeed voice a national outcry, as children can't give informed consent.
And yes, you would probably find a preacher or pastor that has been secretly "married" to a child for a number of years.
A couple of years ago, there was an election for the Senate .
In the Red corner: Roy Less . In the Blue corner, Doug 'Piranha' Jones.
Now, unless you voted for the latter , you'd better be one of those that were the lost sheep when - because of a forum software update & the s(h)ite became too buggy as a result - Ruptured Retards shut down, and what was left of those hopelessly holding onto driftwood said s(h)ite represented were reduced to clinging parasitically to Ruptured Forums. Why?
The fact that a pro -Choicer whose own son is gay ensured that a paedophile never got to the Senate: thus the reddest of Red states - Alabama - turned Blue was the anti-ship missile which blew your entire argument from well over a decade ago being the least of your problems: you doing a metaphorical Leonardo DiCaprio at the end of "Titanic" means you'd better be one of those Raptards lost via said update to RR.
...because you wouldn't like to be reminded of your RL FAIL in RF: would you, o CursedxGraham's Number?!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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