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Actually, if you're not ready to have a kid but you give birth to and keep it anyway, no matter how the kid got there, you're being entirely selfish in that you're thinking about yourself instead of the kid.
Also, not all prisoners get anally raped, and who could possibly keep a kid they got from being raped and actually raise the kid properly? You would hate that kid, fear that kid, or have some kind of reminder-related psychosis about that kid for the rest of your life. That will fuck you up worse than however your rapist is getting fucked up in jail, IF HE EVEN GETS CAUGHT, let alone how much you'll end up screwing up the kid, especially once the kid finds out who their daddy was and why he isn't around.
3/11/2009 12:01:02 PM
So you're saying that just because the Rapist is being punished you should punish the woman too?
3/11/2009 12:01:35 PM
Uh, excuse me, but there's more to having a child than just the gestation, even if one puts the baby up for adoption.
Also, even convicted rapists should "have to live with forced anal rape."
Is this part of compassionate conservatism?
3/11/2009 12:02:26 PM
The rapist has 20 years in prision. The girl is forced to carry the offspring of the man that raped her for the rest of her life.
3/11/2009 12:05:06 PM
You get nine months of a natural process that you can endure.
Fuck you BelieveIt1051. What you're not considering is the emotional scars that the victim will have for the rest of their life.
3/11/2009 12:12:29 PM
So, everyone involved should be punished?
What if the rapist never gets caught? How do you plan to punish them then?
And good horrors, what if the rapist becomes one of the prison-rapists instead of prison-rapees? How do you plan to punish them then?
What if the prison staff gets a new crazy idea that prison rape is not a normal part of the correction and rehabilitation and decide to watch over the prisoners a bit more? How do you plan to punish them then? A legal mandate, perhaps? "A Fundamentalist Orders Prisoners To..." ...(*shakes head and grins*) Oooh, you couldn't!
3/11/2009 12:14:16 PM
The thinking ... it's ... it's non-existent.
3/11/2009 12:14:16 PM
So, you're volunteering to be a surrogate host then? If you're male, you're not entitled to an opinion about someone else's baby. If you're female, you can personalize your level of commitment to this idea, or STFU. I wonder what planet you live on where every rapist goes to jail too.
This is your brain on Religion: minding other people's business. Any questions?
Cue the embryo/baby picture.
3/11/2009 12:26:29 PM
Rape apologists for Jesus!
3/11/2009 12:28:13 PM
It gets worse:
BelieveIt1051 (15 hours ago)
I think the rapist should get the death penalty as well. However, there must be irrefutable proof that the person did rape, and the rapist should get at least 10 years in prison before he or she is executed. And you say it isn't for me to decide, yet you feel free to decide the fate of a rapist. You're a hypocrite! So guess what, if you get pregrant then you WILL rent your body out to that baby, and if you kill it then society will execute you as a murderer. How do you like that idea?
Cry me a river. You want to kill unborn children. Don't come crying to me because women feel pain when they give birth! And what you suggest about the college girl is completely baseless. No such thing would happen to the victim of a crime like that and her pregnancy would be covered by maternity leave.
Also, Roe v. Wade contradicts itself, further proving it was a baseless ruling. It says the law cannot intrude on privacy up to the point of viability, in which case it can. That makes no sense.
It isn't just her uterus anymore once the baby attaches. Wikipedia is a blog that is controlled by elitists, not a factual source. Murder is the conscious act of taking an innocent life in cold blood. Abortion isn't legal. That's a myth. The only reason it is allowed is because the Supreme Court ruled that authorities cannot intrude on the situation due to privacy rights. So it has nothing to do with when life or any right to terminate a child's life. It was a twisted court decision.
Who the hell are you to say that the child will have a terrible life in the foster care system? You don't know that. I would rather the child have a shot at a good life than no chance at any life. I say don't bring an unwanted child into the world either, but a child enters the world at the moment of conception. And who are you to say those women could not endure it? If they don't want the pain then they can get a C-section.
3/11/2009 12:37:06 PM
But what about the stretch marks that never fade, or the figure that just won't come back, or countless other physical changes that forever change a woman's body after pregnancy? Even after the baby pops out, those will forever be there.
And really, think about the kid. Is it really worth having the kid only to shove into the already overburdened adoption and foster system, or to perhaps keep it and treat it with fear and resentment because of what it represents?
3/11/2009 12:38:02 PM
Right on Palin. But BelieveIt1051 is wrong. Rapists should not get 20 year in prison unless they refuse to pay the father 50 sheckles of silver and marry their victim. In fact if they refuse to do that they're going against the will of God and should be executed, not simply imprisoned. But that's only if the victim isn't engaged or married. If the victim is either of those things and it happened in the country the rapist gets executed. If it's in the city both of them are to be executed. I don't like the idea of executing the victim, but it's God's will expressed in the Bible and we are mere mortals who have no place questioning that. For unengaged, unmarried women who refuse to marry their rapist I'm not sure what the appropriate punishment would be but there should be one for going against the Bible. Maybe the government should just make them married anyways and then have the police guard her to make sure she doesn't try to leave.
3/11/2009 12:48:33 PM
A blastocyst is not a baby.
And anyway, you are forgetting that bearing the child leaves the mother with the choice to either put it up for adoption or take care of it, if they take care of it, well childcare is essentially a 20 year sentence in itself, especially if you didn't want the child in the first place.
3/11/2009 12:58:20 PM
a mind far far away
Thank Plato she didn't get into office. It's bad enough she thinks that it's wrong for a woman who's raped to have an abortion, but then she tops it off by saying that it's selfish.
Fundy: So you were raped, huh? And now you're pregnant?
Girl: Yeah, and I think I'm going to have an abortion.
Fundy: WHAT!? That's pretty selfish of you, don't you think? I mean, besides the fact that it's murder, you should also think about the guy who raped you. What do you think he might want? Isn't that important.
Facepalm and bitch-slapping ensues.
3/11/2009 1:02:42 PM
I'm sure if a rape case actually came up (which means the guy got caught in the first place), she'd be all "you wouldn't have been raped if you ____ (you whore)".
3/11/2009 1:03:51 PM
In order to create an account on Youtube, do you have to have a maximum IQ level of 50 or lower?
3/11/2009 1:08:38 PM
Except that this is your religion, not the womans. See, all you can think about is yourself, whining and crying that the evil Americans aren't letting you impose your superstition on everyone else. Move to Iran and leave us in the 21st century alone.
3/11/2009 1:09:50 PM
Believit1051. Please accept my sincere invitation to give yourself a napalm enema, you evil git.
3/11/2009 1:10:21 PM
The wheel has stopped and the hamster is dead.
3/11/2009 1:11:44 PM
So now it a brown eye for an eye?
3/11/2009 1:14:16 PM
Gotta love patriarchy.
3/11/2009 1:18:39 PM
"Actually no you don't because the rapist gets at least 20 years in prison."
IF he's caught, IF he's convicted, IF you get a good judge or jury. Those are a lot of ifs.
"You get nine months of a natural process that you can endure."
Maybe, maybe not. A lot of women have medical condition that make childbirth dangerous, difficult or impossible. And a lot of women still die in childbirth or due to pregnancy-related complications. AND a woman who is mentally fragile due to the rape may be emotionally destroyed if forced to carry a rape pregnancy to term.
"He doesn't have to live with a forced birth, but he does have to live with forced anal rape in prison."
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think that all prisons are quite the rape-fest that some people enjoy imagining.
"See, all you can think about is yourself. You are selfish to think of only your wants,"
That's the ONLY thing a rape victim should be thinking of--HERSELF.
"and you're evil to disregard an innocent child's needs AND rights."
A fetus is not a child. Moreover, taking emergency contraception isn't killing a child.
Now, as to YOU, BelieveIt. You are scum. You are a cunt. You are the lowest of the low. You are, if it can be believed, lower than a rapist. You are an ignorant, heartless, hopeless twat who, quite frankly, should have been aborted. The thought that I have to share the same planet with you makes me physically ill. And in case you didn't notice, NO ONE GAVE A SHIT WHAT PALIN HAD TO SAY. We all decided she was quite mad and that's why she's not the Vice President. Now shut the fuck up, go find a fire and die in it. Painfully.
3/11/2009 1:20:04 PM
Well, at least the "rape babies shouldn't be aborted either" folks are internally consistent.
3/11/2009 1:34:25 PM
Youtube has once again provided this site with a douchebag.
3/11/2009 1:34:45 PM
Please, die in a fucking fire. Now. Go. Hurry up.
3/11/2009 1:35:23 PM
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