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Atheists did you know happiness is a Christian concept?

So for all the atheists who claim to be happy I have news for you: Happiness and the concept of happiness was first mentioned in the Bible. Therefore, it is a concept originated by Christianity. Adam and Eve were happy in the Garden of Eden until they broke GOD's law and ate from the tree of forbidden fruit.

Happiness = GOD
Unhappiness = rejection of GOD's laws= atheism

Get happy and get with the Good News!

Captain Art Griego, Y! answers 131 Comments [3/12/2009 6:06:17 PM]
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Mrs. Antichrist

lmao, is there anything they WON'T try to claim as a Christian-based concept?

3/13/2009 7:04:49 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Happiness is a christian concept? Better not tell the suicidally depressed folks at Rapture Ready. It would destroy their faith.

3/13/2009 7:05:55 AM

Pule Thamex

I'm having to interpret what you mean because fundies' definition of English words is different to normals. But this is what I think you said:-

I, Captain Art Griego, am a disgruntled fundie clod. I am unable to express my frustration and anger at being such a gullible dolt. Therefore, I shall revert to the usual fundie tactic of making things up instead. I am totally grasping at straws in order to make it seem that believing in sky-fairies automatically makes one superior to an atheist.

Happiness = contentment and pleasure.
Unhappiness = misery, sadness.

(Straightforward enough definitions that normals can understand and use for clear communication.)

Be miserable and do, think and feel as I do!

There you have it, the usual fundie verbal diarrhea.

3/13/2009 8:06:44 AM

Chancellor Gorkon

As an apathetic agnostic (I don't know and I don't care!) I gotta tell ya...I'm a pretty happy guy.

A Christian concept? I don't think so sparky.

3/13/2009 8:09:10 AM

Jasper Spotty-Butt

Christianity invented masturbation, coming like a donkey, coming on the floor, sodomy (still practised quite frequently by Christian pastors and right-wing politicians). incest, selling ones daughters as sex objects, etc. So I suppose that fundies are happy in as much as they are happy to do all of the above.

3/13/2009 8:13:42 AM


I am staggered by the willful self-deception and/or ignorance of fundies who convince themselves their stultification is a state of beatitude.

The bible was first written down not before 700 BCE. We are therefore supposed to think that the word 'happiness' did not exist before then?

And even were the bible the origin of happiness, it would be as a Jewish concept, not a christian one. Jesus didn't come along until much later. Just goes to show the lack of joined-up thinking on the part of these idiots.

3/13/2009 8:21:39 AM


God really is his pilot - there's nobody at the controls.

3/13/2009 8:42:48 AM


With 82 comments so far, somebody probably beat me to it, but "OY VEY!"

3/13/2009 8:48:11 AM


@ #923374 Captain Art Griego:

"God Bless everyone here for their comments. I may not respect you, but I respect your right to say what's on your mind, even if it isn't worthy of resect and it is anti-Bibleish... God Bless you"

That's funny, *I* respect *you*. I just don't respect your beliefs... or your intellect.... Okay, I guess I don't respect you either. Bless your pointy little head.

3/13/2009 9:00:49 AM


Ancient Greeks would like to have a word with ya.

Also ancient Sumerians, Babylonians, Persians, Egyptians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mongols, Celts, Indians, Incans, Mayans, Aztecs, Native Americans, Turks, Romans... Hell, just about every culture extending beyond the period the Bible was written in.

I, myself, would also like to have a word with you, and ask you to stop using the graceful language known as English and butchering the beautiful and useful principles of logic to create such examples of utter and complete BULLSHIT!

3/13/2009 9:13:12 AM


Ironically, your name brings me more pain than your comments.

3/13/2009 9:35:13 AM

Adam and Eve pre-dated Jesus so how could they have been happy?

Captain, you are a douchebag.

3/13/2009 9:39:54 AM


Adam and Eve pre-dated Jesus so how could they have been happy?

Captain, you are a douchebag.

3/13/2009 9:40:37 AM


Time to break out the quote again...

The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.
-- Bernard Shaw, Androcles and the Lion, Preface (1916)

3/13/2009 11:36:03 AM


I guess this means Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and numerous others that don't worship the god you do aren't happy.

By the way, I consider myself Agnostic, and former Presbyterian. I was even a fundie-type back then, yet I'm happier now than I ever was than when I was a Christian.

But that means I'm just corrupted by Satan, huh?

3/13/2009 11:42:03 AM


I haven't read anything so spectacularly awful as this in a while.

3/13/2009 11:59:07 AM


D Laurier wrote:

"Sorry, The earlyest reference to the concept of happiness is from a pre-dynastic Egyptian text that predates your bible by over 2500 years."

You don't REALLY believe the dates given by those godless communist socialist nazi muslum college-educated Egyptologists, do you?

3/13/2009 12:46:36 PM


> Atheists did you know happiness is a Christian concept?

Christians, did you know that that is not a question, it's a bloody statement? What are you asking, and what kind of answer are you expecting? *sigh*

> Happiness and the concept of happiness was first mentioned in the Bible.

This user is probably coming fresh from Conservapedia's classes. Andy postulated that concepts don't exist before the dates listed as first use of the word in Merriam-Webster.

Anyway - let's examine some old poetry, okay? Our tale begins from so old times that we didn't even have this rubbish about "written tradition"...

"Bring to me a foaming goblet
Of the barley of my fathers,
Lest my singing grow too weary,
Singing from the water only.
Bring me too a cup of strong-beer,
It will add to our enchantment,
To the pleasure of the evening,
Northland's long and dreary evening,
For the beauty of the day-dawn,
For the pleasure of the morning,
The beginning of the new-day."

(If that's too tl;dr for you, here's a summary: "Hey, let's get more beer and we'll have even more fun singing those old mythic poems together.")

This is from the *first* poem of Kalevala, the national epic of Finland. Christianity comes to the country in poem 50. That's the *last* one. Before then, the tale had tons of ups and downs, happy and sad parts. (This being Finland, a lot of downs. We'll grant that.)

> until they broke GOD's law

...which is outlined in the Old Testament, as has been listed many times already, but I still can't get over this - how can anyone trip over such a small detail when making such a giant grandiose claim...

What did we learn today, kids? Do your research. For example, while writing this post, I tried to avert the amateur mistake of trusting only the 1888 English translation of Kalevala (happened to be the only electronic file I had at hand), and had to look at the original text - which, unlike the translation, doesn't specifically mention happiness and merriment until this particular part (The translation uses the expression "merry singing" early on, which doesn't appear in that form in the original text). It would have been mighty embarrassing to be caught on a little detail like that. But the original poster? Biiiig leaps of faith. Without a safety net. Pavement. Face first. That's got to hurt. Please don't make this mistake.

And sorry for other potential mistakes. I need to get to bed soon. *yawwwn*

3/13/2009 1:01:40 PM


lol. you fail.

3/13/2009 1:39:57 PM

Random Man

Happiness was around before oyur religion and will be more abundant after it.

This actually looks like a kind of No True Scotsman, "you are not truely happy". You are changing the definition of happy and applying it as if you didn't.

3/13/2009 1:43:48 PM


happiness is the release of endorphines in response to a observed successful event.

3/14/2009 5:39:28 AM

The Amazing Liarbird

Damn. I only wish I could say this is the first time I've encountered this little claim.

Yes, yes you are very special, little Christard; your antics make all the decent Christians I've met over the years look FABULOUS, and even your happiness is better and more specialer than everyone else's. Go you! (Go far, far away...)

3/14/2009 2:14:10 PM


Happiness is older than humanity. You don't have to be human to feel happy. Other mammals have basic emotions too.

3/15/2009 3:30:52 PM


More from the Captain's blog

Poor people on that site! Even the color is dark and gray. They should ask themselves, when the Final Trump sounds, where will they be? Ascended with HIM? Or sitting in a steaming pie of their own eternal misery in the bowels of the hot place beneath the Earth?

Mmm Pie.

3/15/2009 7:39:39 PM


realy so noone was happy until genesis was written?

3/16/2009 8:21:26 AM

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