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[Regarding a bill proposed, and shelved, in Connecticut.]

If I understand this right the gays want the state and federal government to recognize domestic partnerships. I think where the real anger with them lies is they want the state and federal government to equate the domestic partnerships with marriage between and a man and a women. The gays already have the legal right to have a domestic partnership so, the question is what are they actually wanting. Is it that they say want the benefits and privileges that come with marriage, is that the real issue? Tax purpose wise marriage doesn't have any benefit, as a matter of fact the tax burden on married people is greater than that of those single or living together. There are some employee benefits such carrying a spouse on group insurance plan, health and life. In the states where homosexuals unions have been made legal, do they declare at the time of the union which is the acting male figure and female figure on the license so the judge knows who to assign alimony payments in case of divorce? No I think the main reason for the push for the change in a 220 year old law is to desecrate the marriage institution because it is ordained by God, just as every other God honoring thing is under attack in America today.
Offenses are sure to come but woe unto those who they come by.

forsaltnlight, the Christian Post article comments 39 Comments [3/14/2009 12:31:15 PM]
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You dont know the first fucking thing your talking about you bigoted piece of shit.
http://www.equalitymatters.org/

#0945: Medical Decisions
During a medical crisis, LGBT couples have no legal authority to make critical treatment decisions for their loved one.

#0221: Hospital Visitation
LGBT couples have no legal right to visit a spouse in the hospital and can be barred from entering the room by medical personnel.

#0904: Social Security
LGBT are not eligible to receive a spouse's Social Security pension or many other government benefits.

And finally another right that has jack shit to do with religion but you and your bigoted churches keep fighting anyway:

#0544: Job Security
In a majority of states, employees can be fired just for being gay, which can put a huge burden on any family's financial security.


When the fuck are we gonna stop treating these assholes with respect? Why are they 'defending their beliefs' but Christian Identity is just abunch of racist assholes?

3/14/2009 12:42:33 PM

Elphada

You'd be pissed if you pay taxes but were denied a legal union with somebody you love and cherish. Desecration is not on their minds. 2 people love each other and want to share life with each other. Why the hell does this bother you? It's none of your business.

3/14/2009 12:43:52 PM

Pule Thamex

Marriage has got fuck all to do with imaginary beings you simpleton. You know nothing except for what you've been told by other simpletons and lunatics. People were marrying long before Christianity was around you simple cretin. You and your fundamentalist morons seem determined to remain ignorant and force your utter stupidity on to others. God is a simpleton, or he would be if he existed.


3/14/2009 12:44:09 PM

Vince

yes, the gays only want to get married because it insults you...

fucking dipshit, has it ever occurred to anyone that some gays are actually, you know, Christian?
that they might actually want to get "married", as in an actual official marriage. and that a "civil union" wont cut it.

telling gay people they can't get married but a civil suit should be good enough strikes me as along the same lines of telling women "well, you can't be "people" per say, but you can be something almost as good."

3/14/2009 12:46:09 PM



Just about everything you said is a lie. Nice job you asshole.

3/14/2009 12:50:23 PM

Xotan

Where does it mention god-honouring thing in the constitution?

What about all being equal?

3/14/2009 12:52:12 PM



"telling gay people they can't get married but a civil suit should be good enough"

I've tried afew times to ask people whining about how civil unions are equal *a load of horsehit, even if they where close to equal they're only allowed in 9 states* why we cant just give interracial couples civil unions. After all they're equal, the only reason they'd want the word marriage is to piss on Christian identity's beliefs. They never respond.

3/14/2009 12:54:46 PM

aaa

I sense a single issue voter.

3/14/2009 1:11:38 PM

MPW

"which is the acting male figure and female figure"

They just can't disentangle their brains from this hierarchy-of-power model of sexual/gender relations.

"the main reason for the push for the change in a 220 year old law is to desecrate the marriage institution because it is ordained by God"

Yes, yes, everything is about you and your religion! You're the center the universe! Yes, you is, isn't you? My cute wittle center of the univewse! (pats head)



3/14/2009 1:23:28 PM

RavenWood

That's right. Its not about equal rights, its all to piss you off. You've found us all out, you sharp tack you.

Moron.

3/14/2009 1:26:22 PM

a mind far far away

the question is what are they actually wanting

Is it that they say want the benefits and privileges that come with marriage, is that the real issue?

Well, lookie there, you answered your own question.

Tax purpose wise marriage doesn't have any benefit, as a matter of fact the tax burden on married people is greater than that of those single or living together

This is absolute bullshit. Just like this morons brain

3/14/2009 2:13:38 PM

Detrs

...fuck you, man.

3/14/2009 2:21:36 PM

Papabear

What someone else's marriage is, be it gay, straight, long-lasting, frivolous, etc. doesn't effect YOUR marriage, so STFU about it.

3/14/2009 3:13:28 PM

Old Viking

They want to participate in an institution in order to desecrate it? I can never quite get the hang of fundy thinking.

3/14/2009 3:42:21 PM

fundiesRtehlulz

It's not about taxes or hating god or whatever the fuck you fools think. It's about being treated as equals. Civil Unions, Domestic Partnerships, it doesn't matter if you give them the exact same benefits of marriage. They want to be MARRIED like EVERYONE ELSE. Until they can be married exactly like a straight couple, there's no equality. You and your god can suck my chode.

3/14/2009 4:15:32 PM



While you live in a bubble of fundy paranoia and are obsessed with finding a Biblical or religious angle in everything you see and hear, believe it or not, the rest of the world sees this and many other issues solely in light of law and civil/human rights. There is no secret plot by the rest of society to ferret out and desecrate those things you see as "ordained by God". If you were talking about, say, the CIA, with this same level of paranoia, they'd have you on Lithium, you know.

Oh, and, we know you're lying about the tax benefits, too.

3/14/2009 4:42:07 PM

Orion


3/14/2009 5:37:17 PM

The Amazing Liarbird

Yes, it's always about YOU. IT couldn't possibly be that two people love each other and want to make it official in a way that doesn't mark them as second-class citizens.

3/14/2009 6:09:41 PM



220 year old law? Like the 27th amendment regarding congressional pay raises?

3/14/2009 7:15:29 PM

WMDKitty

Didn't we already try "separate but equal?" It didn't work then, it still doesn't work now.

3/14/2009 7:26:36 PM

Doug

No, we're not doing this just to piss you off. That's just a bonus.

3/14/2009 7:30:26 PM

BiologyTeacher

I've only been doing taxes on the side for this one tax season so far, but I'm here to tell you that you have no clue what you're talking about. The tax laws are HIGHLY skewed towards married folk. Just look at all the penalties for folks who file married filing separately. Congress (the ones who write the tax laws) wants everyone married, and they write the laws that way. Unfortunately, the rest of your of rant is equally ignorant.

3/14/2009 7:42:41 PM

GreenEyedLilo

I get so angry at the idea that a same-sex relationship must have a "male figure" and a "female figure." Hell, as a bi woman who loves her straight friends, I get upset at the idea of a "male figure" and a "female figure" in cross-sex relationships, because that means forcing people into hierarchies and roles.

I am also angry at the apparent notion that when my wife and I put on our pretty dresses and carried our roses and exchanged our rings--both of us, as we are both "the woman" in our relationship--we vowed to "desecrate the marriage institution" rather than to honor and care for each other.

If it's not as special to you because it includes us, that's your fucking problem, not ours.

3/14/2009 8:12:21 PM

John_in_Oz

Your marriage will be desecrated by gay marriage?
The wife will leave you for her girlfriend, huh?

3/14/2009 9:20:49 PM

Rusty Professor

"Tax purpose wise marriage doesn't have any benefit, as a matter of fact the tax burden on married people is greater than that of those single or living together."
No... Just, no... If taxes seem greater on a married couple, wouldn't it be because there are two people to tax instead of one?

"just as every other God honoring thing is under attack in America today. "
Oh, too bad, guess that mean you can't be a bigot to those who think differently than you do anymore.

"Offenses are sure to come but woe unto those who they come by."
Is that... Is that a threat? Are you seriously pulling the old , "We need to do this or God will punish us," argument?

3/15/2009 7:15:36 AM
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