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Lying for Jesus

Because sometimes that much fail is win!

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I am aware that people might think I'm crazy due to some of what I'm saying in this post. I don't care because I've seen this stuff firsthand and it's true. I'm not posting to start some debate, either. I don't want to get into a theological or apologetics debate or anything. I just want to tell you what I've experienced. It is difficult to convince people that the Bible is without internal or external contradiction (although I believe it myself), but I believe based on personal experience, not based on the reliability of the Bible. After trying to defend the Bible and my beliefs for months, I think it's as good a time as any to share some personal experiences.

This past week has been spring break at my school. I went with 600 other college students on a mission trip to south Texas, very close to the border. Crazy things happened. Guys, I don't know how to say it, but to say that miracles happen. I personally witnessed a guy's leg get physically healed (and heard several other stories the week from people who I trust with my life). I also personally saw five people come to Christ, and after praying for the Holy Spirit to come and fill them (like they did in the Bible), the people would say they felt "weird," "different," or "excited." One lady even said she felt "caliente" after being praying for a filling of the Spirit. I heard similar stories from friends all week.

And we shared the Gospel wherever we went, and many people came to know Christ. That's not to say we didn't face rejection, but even our bus drivers to and from home and the Subway workers on our dinner stop on the way back came to know Christ. There was no discrimination or specific group of people that were more receptive. Hispanics, blacks, whites, rich, poor, bus drivers, college students, children, adults, etc. They all came to know Christ and I heard crazy stories about people of all sort. After a week in which I experienced the power and love of God in such a tangible way, I don't know what to say but it's real. Having said that, I wonder how many of y'all have heard the Gospel. There might be fewer people on a Religion Board who haven't heard it, but I was surprised at how many people, especially in Texas, had not heard the Gospel.

joel is cheese, Gamefaqs 62 Comments [3/14/2009 9:05:17 PM]
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Dio Fa

I don't think you are crazy. I think you are a liar.

3/14/2009 9:10:34 PM

John_in_Oz

I find your claim that you met many people in Texas who had not heard the Gospel to be every bit as compelling and believable as the rest of your story.

3/14/2009 9:11:46 PM



Holy crap, I submitted this like an hour ago, I submitted something a week ago about a guy who wants to bring back old testament rules and blames gays for slavery, the nazis, the indian removal and the spanish inquisition.
But yeah the only thing more ludicrous then the vague injury that was miracolously healed is the idea of people in Texas and Mexico who havent heard of Jebus.

3/14/2009 9:15:51 PM

Philbert McAdamia

You saying it's real does not make it tangible.

3/14/2009 9:19:56 PM



Bus drivers coming to Christ! It's a miracle!

3/14/2009 9:21:23 PM

Narwhalman

The idea that there are people in Texas who haven't heard of Jesus is just a little too much for my willing suspension of disbelief to handle.

3/14/2009 9:21:59 PM

Ozma

I don't know if "heard" the gospel means heard of... I mean I live in Alberta which is oft called the Texas of Canada and I've met people here who are pretty clueless as to what the Bible is about, or any details of the Christian faith (some of them manage to be fundies despite it, most of the others are Asians). So he might just mean, sharing the whole story... like reading one of the four gospels in it's entirety (in my experience preachers don't often read much together... they like to throw out verses to support their gay bashing or whatever they're shoving in your face that week).

I'm not going to comment on the healings.

3/14/2009 9:22:08 PM

Ozma

I should clarify... since there are a lot of phillipino, Chinese and especially Korean Christians. it's actually my Japanese friends I'm talking about... but even with all the possible exposure they could get in Alberta, most don't know much. So if they could be clueless here, they could probably be clueless in Texas.

3/14/2009 9:23:38 PM

Oy Vey!

"I personally witnessed a guy's leg get physically healed"

Sure you did.

"the people would say they felt "weird," "different," or "excited.""

Sounds like a mild dissociative state to me.

"but I was surprised at how many people, especially in Texas, had not heard the Gospel"

In Texas? Liar seconded!

3/14/2009 9:29:23 PM

Efrain

I also personally saw five people come to Christ, and after praying for the Holy Spirit to come and fill them (like they did in the Bible), the people would say they felt "weird," "different," or "excited." One lady even said she felt "caliente" after being praying for a filling of the Spirit.
So they prayed for the Holy Spirit to come, so that they could be filled. They then said it felt weird, different or excited, one of them saying she felt caliente after being filled? Worst porno EVER.

3/14/2009 9:40:18 PM

Efrain

They* We need the edit button back.

3/14/2009 9:40:42 PM

ausador

Hmmm...never saw this in public admin, never voted on it, the submitter says he put it in only an hour ago...somethings a bit off.

Personally I would have voted to delete...ok the guy swears he witnessed a healing, yawn.

Then said he witnessed to a bunch of people, double yawn.

Where is the fundie, where is the funny? This is TL;DR boring typical christian, not fundie.

We aren't here to piss on every post on the internet that has the word Jesus or God in it. We are here to laugh at the fundies, this ain't it.

3/14/2009 9:42:33 PM

solomongrundy

Although this quote could probably be classed as 'Lying for Jesus' I don't see anything particularly fundie here. It's a bit too lacking in the 'raw hatred/spitting venom/willful denial of reality' departments for that.



3/14/2009 9:56:28 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

"It is difficult to convince people that the Bible is without internal or external contradiction..."

That would be because it is chock-full of internal and external contradiction.


Also.. you were on a road trip with 600 people? And you stopped for dinner at a Subway? o.O Damn, those poor sandwich makers must've LOVED you.

3/14/2009 10:09:12 PM

wackadoodle

Wouldnt Lying for Jesus fall under willful denial of reality?

3/14/2009 10:20:45 PM

a mind far far away

I am aware that people might think I'm crazy due to some of what I'm saying in this post.

Oh, this is going to be fun.

It is difficult to convince people that the Bible is without internal or external contradiction

It's hard to convince someone that something is true when it's obviously false.

but I believe based on personal experience, not based on the reliability of the Bible

So, you're admitting to stupidity?

I personally witnessed a guy's leg get physically healed

So, millions of people have seen ghosts, UFO's, fairies, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, and other mythical and nonexistent things. How is yours different?

I also personally saw five people come to Christ, and after praying for the Holy Spirit to come and fill them (like they did in the Bible), the people would say they felt "weird," "different," or "excited."

A common psychological response. Nothing supernatural in that.

And we shared the Gospel wherever we went, and many people came to know Christ.

So, Christ went on this tour with you? Did he have fun? What did he eat? Did he drink the water?

I heard crazy stories

Hey, me too. I'm reading one now.

After a week in which I experienced the power and love of God in such a tangible way

I think you have no idea what tangible means.

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3/14/2009 10:21:12 PM

WMDKitty

Ugh. Lying for Jesus.

As for feeling "weird", "different", or "excited", that's purely psychological -- they expected to feel something, so they did. Or someone spiked the punch. Either way, there's nothing "spiritual" about it.

3/14/2009 10:26:39 PM

The Amazing Liarbird

Well I guess christian fan fiction has to have its Mary Sues too.

3/14/2009 10:45:48 PM

Nothing

I personally witnessed a guy's leg get physically healed (and heard several other stories the week from people who I trust with my life).
Seriously? And you were with 600 students? Well then, Im sure somebody has taken pictures of the whole thing. No? Nobody had a camera? Too bad...

3/14/2009 11:04:26 PM

Dexter

This past week has been spring break at my school.

Say no more.

I've said it a hundered times. No booze for teenagers!!!

3/14/2009 11:07:50 PM

severin

"One lady even said she felt "caliente" after being praying for a filling of the Spirit."

Caliente means 'hot'.
So this woman felt hot after praying for a 'filling of the Spirit'?

Sooo many jokes I could make. So many.

3/14/2009 11:19:03 PM

Nothing

I personally witnessed a guy's leg get physically healed (and heard several other stories the week from people who I trust with my life).
Seriously? And you were with 600 students? Well then, Im sure somebody has taken pictures of the whole thing. No? Nobody had a camera? Too bad...

3/14/2009 11:22:48 PM

Efrain

@severin:
I already made the joke.

3/14/2009 11:49:18 PM

Clown

Did joel just said that he and his 600 spent theis spring break in South Texas, somewhere behind God's underpants. Talk about lousy place to visit! What happened to Hawai, Fort Loderdale, The Big Apple? I mean, come on... 600 students visiting south Texas and having a good time with the "holly spirit"? Poe?

3/15/2009 12:22:17 AM

aaa

You be tripping balls.

3/15/2009 1:47:46 AM
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