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Happily, I was a very easy convert [to Quiverfull]. I loved being a mom and having babies.. But I knew that Brendon did not share my views. He worked 60+ hours a week just so I could stay home with our children. He was concerned with house and car payments. But as time went on, I could be silent no longer. I was very hesitant to share my thoughts with him. So I prayed. I prayed that the Lord would prepare his heart for what I had to say. I also prayed that the Lord would give me contentment if Brendon said no more babies. A few days later I felt the Lord give me the okay. I was on my way out of town to a conference for two days. I decided to write him a letter and let him think about it while I was away. I did not want to influence him directly. I truly wanted his conviction to come from God. I gave him this letter as I was backing out of the driveway.

[Long letter]

The Lord is so good. The day I got back from my trip, we never used birth control again.

We Christians are believing lies from the very pit of hell. If we were to list all the reasons why Christians use birth control, we would see that they are the same reasons why a woman aborts her child. The primary reason children are murdered is because they are an inconvenience. Babies interfere with our pursuit of happiness, or Lexus's, swimming pools, careers, 3,000 square foot houses....you get the idea. One of the main reasons why we as the Church have failed to act against abortion is because we have the same anti-child mentality as those who advocate it.

How are we ever going to impact this lost and dying world, if we conform to its standards? Jesus calls us to be peculiar, to be different. How far are we willing to go? We are to crucify ourselves, put to death our own selfish wants and desires.

Nikki Keith, Quiverfull 83 Comments [3/19/2009 11:55:43 AM]
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Dan

life fail.

3/19/2009 12:02:15 PM

Dan

also, good job making your husband have kids he doesnt want by guilt tripping him.

Hopefully he'll use a condom when he cheats on you.

3/19/2009 12:04:45 PM

Blackclaw

"If we were to list all the reasons why Christians use birth control, we would see that they are the same reasons why a woman aborts her child."

Being unable to feed them is alright though?

Your thinking is horribly flawed. I wear a seatbelt because it is inconvient to go through my windshield. Just because "convience" may be the same reason given for one action as another doesn't automatically make that reason invalid.

There's no moral reason not to take birth control and plenty of moral reason why you should. But if the morality of birth control is your problem, then just stop having sex.

You continuing to breed means your existing children will have to survive on less resources or become dependent on my charity.

3/19/2009 12:05:45 PM

Mihangel apYrs

so to keep his wife happy and spawning, the poor idiot is working himself into an early grave while she fulfills herself.

What the FUCK kind of marriage is it?!

3/19/2009 12:09:16 PM

Ozzie

"Jesus calls us to be peculiar"...

I'd say your thinking is very peculiar.

3/19/2009 12:10:16 PM

Narwhalman

Fuck, as if the Earth doesn't have enough screaming little brats already...

3/19/2009 12:10:46 PM

enna

What if everyone on the planet was this silly and irresponsible?

There's more to life than cranking out 17 screaming brats and brainwashing them to love Jebus.

3/19/2009 12:10:46 PM

tracer

You know, Nikki, your attitude made perfectly good sense -- back when infant mortality was above 50%.

If you really want to return to the Good Old Days before contraception was widely available, you should also make sure your kids get a good old-fashioned dose of cholera and childhood pneumonia. And no fair using those newfangled antibiotics to cure them!

3/19/2009 12:11:10 PM

Sisyphus

It's selfish to not want to have a child? It's selfish to not want to be unable to support lots of kids.

Sorry luv but most people prefer quality (as in quality of life) over quantity. I pity your poor husband for marrying such a selfish woman.

3/19/2009 12:23:30 PM

John

The primary reason children are murdered is because they are an inconvenience. Babies interfere with our pursuit of happiness, or Lexus's, swimming pools, careers, 3,000 square foot houses....you get the idea.

No, they interfere with raising your other children and insuring their health and success. Most people go for quality, not quantity.

3/19/2009 12:26:00 PM

Sayna

Quiverfull is the epitome of fundie "women are incubators" bullshit. It's sad when women buy into it.

Vagina clown car pic in 3... 2...

3/19/2009 12:26:00 PM

aaa

And now, your life gets a lot more difficult. Have fun noticing your husband's affairs!

3/19/2009 12:26:01 PM

Captain Britannica

Go ahead and crucify yourselves. I'll bring nails.

3/19/2009 12:26:01 PM

Thejebusfire

"He was concerned with house and car payments."

I'm sure he was. Afterall, it's not easy feeding and providing for several children.

"But as time went on, I could be silent no longer. I was very hesitant to share my thoughts with him."

I'm sorry, but you sound very ungrateful. This man sacrificed his entire life, so that can have what you want. A large family takes a lot of sacrafice.

"If we were to list all the reasons why Christians use birth control, we would see that they are the same reasons why a woman aborts her child."

But somehow popping out babies that you can't feed is okay?

"Babies interfere with our pursuit of happiness, or Lexus's, swimming pools, careers, 3,000 square foot houses....you get the idea. "

No. A baby would interfere on my social life, my finances, my college savings, you get the idea.

"One of the main reasons why we as the Church have failed to act against abortion is because we have the same anti-child mentality as those who advocate it. "

What about rape or etopic pregnancy victims?
Abortion isn't always "anit-child". How is it anymore "anti-child" than you popping out as many babies as possible while your husband works from dawn til dusk to provide for your selfeshness?

"We are to crucify ourselves, put to death our own selfish wants and desires."

I think you're the one who needs to put away your selfesh desires for having as many babies as you want. Why don't adopt some kids? Of course not, that might be something Jesus would do...


3/19/2009 12:26:50 PM

EvoPagan

You really are a selfish, self-centered, evil cunt.

3/19/2009 12:31:10 PM

Lucilius

So you think Jebus wants you to make your life, your children's lives, and everyone else's lives as shitty as possible? And you worship that prick (pun intended) ... why, exactly?

3/19/2009 12:32:50 PM

Zeus

Planet Earth: Serving 6 billion and counting.

3/19/2009 1:09:42 PM

Thinking Allowed

Nadya Suleman comes to mind right about now.

3/19/2009 1:12:03 PM



You can "crucify" yourself all you want, but you don't get to destroy everyone else around you with your selfishness. Now your kids will grow up poor, unhealthy, and with no hope of going to college or getting anywhere in life. Your husband will kill himself working and worrying about bills he knows he can never catch up with, because he's been gullible enough to believe you when you claim God told you to do somehting that fact was what you yourself wanted to do after reading propaganda from a cult.

And embryos are NOT children!

3/19/2009 1:19:47 PM

Doctor Whom

That's how you put to death your own selfish wants and desires? Not quite, Nikki. What you're doing is indulging them at the expense of your husband, any kids that you have, and the rest of the world, which has to compete for finite resources.

3/19/2009 1:26:37 PM

MozMode

I fucking hate that Quiverfull bullshit. It's just another excuse for these idiots to be irresponsible, pop out like 20 kids and brainwash all of them to be idiot Fundie retards just like themselves. Hopefully this asshole's husband puts a stop to it before he's knee deep in baby shit.

3/19/2009 1:27:14 PM

Lucilius

@#925879:

Embryos are children in the same way that a Denny's ham and cheese omelette is a chicken, a pig and a cow.

3/19/2009 1:27:51 PM

Wheels of Steel

If I were he husband, I would have gotten a vasectomy immediately after I finished reading the letter and then told her that was what God spoke to me about.

3/19/2009 1:29:47 PM

Blackvoice

Happily, I was a very easy convert [to Quiverfull]. I loved being a mom and having babies..

We are to crucify ourselves, put to death our own selfish wants and desires.


So convincing.

3/19/2009 1:30:41 PM

Dio Fa

I don't use birth control, I use husband control. With this many kids, he has to work so many hours, I don't have to have him around much anymore. Given what he would have pay in child support, he also doesn't dare divorce my sorry ass.

3/19/2009 1:38:06 PM
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